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[0:50] Welcome to the Sioux Empire podcast the quirky but harmless podcast so about Sioux Empire news, music of culture I am your host Robert mehling and joining me as always is Seth wearing a beanie Glover hey what’s up.
Also with us this week is air a show.
Also as area Nicole the Midwest medium yes very cool and then also joining us is her her.
Crime partner in crime that’s the title we going okay is Dominic winicki film director extraordinaire.
Let’s see so this week we are last week we did a Halloween episode we did the book club with the Spells and we did,
all that fun stuff this time around we are just going to talk to you guys this is all about mr. pointy and request medium and whatever else warwolf is God,
you know on the rotors and Brewing so I don’t let you guys dictate where you want to start with all that cuz you guys have a lot of stuff you do oh you are very prolific and you have a lot to unpack so,
or feel free to Jump On In do you want me to tell you which one to start with or do you have a choice of where do you want to tell me about mr. pointy pointy is a four-and-a-half minute short film that we shot last November.
It’s about the synopsis I’ve been using it’s about a little girl who tries to convince her dad there’s a monster in the closet.

[2:18] It said as as a filmmaker I want to challenge myself to tell the smallest story I could so.
It was an idea of let’s set this in a bedroom with a child going to bed and of course you know when a child goes to bed there always has to be a monster in the closet so,
it’s we shot it over the course of a day I schedule it for 8 hours or shot it in 6 which so I feel like getting better never happens.
And the biggest challenge we had with it is is the little girl we got a local actress,
Iceland Curry this was her first acting she’s what ate the whole story kind of hinges on the child’s performance I wanted a child was a little bit younger.

[3:02] But.

[3:05] It’s hard so I been that and it really starts to be hard to actually like that’s what you really need somebody who is like a professional child actor that died young like that no tokens and the Rings
yeah they’re too hot.
What’s Elijah Woods both her parents cuz they have audition for me in the past and I really liked.
Both of their performance are they just went right for the role and so I figured if they’re comfortable in front of the camera that good acting chops obviously one of their.

[3:41] For five kids that they have at this point should be should be fairly comfortable so I hit them up and says hey I like to use one of your kids for the weekend.

[3:50] It’s going well,
I said this is the Eastern Europe you got to pick the child from the child tank
it’s good good teeth and strong back
their kids range anywhere from like 10 to like 3 So I says you know you kind of you which one do you think would be more comfortable.
And that she chose aislyn and she she knocked out of the park I’m also the the actor that we had Lando who have worked with in the past.
She he himself has four five kids so he knew how to work with kids plus he’s he’s also.
It his day job works with kids what he does relying on him.
More than probably normal just because I’ve never worked with kids before so but a tax return on what we’ve been in up to right now venid 11 festivals.
We have won some awards we got second place audience Choice Award at slash & Bash in Lawrence Kansas.

[5:13] We got best for short at the South Dakota film festival and we also just one audience Choice Award at.

[5:24] Slice slice of Cinema in Michigan.
So yeah it’s been getting out there it’s been getting a really good review.
Yeah I think I think the part that I really gets people is like a diesel and delivers us one line that’s very cliche.

[5:42] Beer here kind of like that and that’s it’s kind of like a little Cuts Like a popular comeback phrase that everybody kind of says,
and then when she delivers this one line that it could everybody in the oven to go like she said it and now it’s like a shit hits the fan,
it’s high speed story really well so I don’t know if you want to give it away like I don’t know if,
Darfield Missouri inclusive like we’re cotton would try to like be a little bit time for this kind of.
We live in an area where it is very.
Haven’t noticed yeah you don’t say so weird we’re definitely working trying to bring in.
You know other actors looking at rolls that you know cuz what I wrote mr. Point well.

[6:44] Okay look what I did when I write family Dynamic to you she just go with a the typical what you grow up with a mom and a dad.
But looking at some of the things that writings and saying well why can’t they just be two dads why can’t they be to Mom’s you know
why does what have to be white will have to be black you know so just kind of looking at things like that just trying to be more diverse and in Del Sol.

[7:08] From what we’ve been seeing at festivals we seem to be right in line with where a lot of other filmmakers are looking at 2 so it’s definitely a nice.

[7:18] Nice to know that we’re on par with everybody else.
Nice something in South Dakota ahead of the curb.
So we’re hoping that mr. pointy will be out as online.
Release that and I’ve been looking at some options to maybe see if we can get a little bit of distribution on it but it’s a short film it’s only four and a half minutes so,
am I just throwing up online and see how plays Farkle.

[7:56] What else is werewolf going going down we have a lot let’s see I am currently working on a new feature which hopefully will be.
Shooting maybe hopefully next year pre-production has not yet started just because the script is not a hundred percent yet.

[8:17] We have a couple of shorts.

[8:25] Cuz I was on there for both of them for black eyed girl in a Ouija board.

[8:32] Can I give you the ideas for both of them I’ve been going on.
Creepypasta I like to grab stories from there so we got one black eyed girl which is the next one we’re going to be shooting.
Is basically about I mean there’s been films and stories about the black-eyed children but nothing,
nobody ever tells you what happens when you let one of the children into your house that was about thank God I didn’t exactly.

[9:06] There’s another urban legend stories out there too and you can find one Reddit where there’s these black eyed children you can be in your car and your house and is always like a really bad storm going on rain snow whatever,
Andy’s tooth is always two children will approach you,
and they will want be let into your car into your home to like use your phone or for safety so they want to like invade your personal space and usually the the the the Storyteller is always like.
Well I got a really creepy vibe from these kids and then you look at these kids and their eyes and you see that they’re just completely black and then
you’re like no no thanks I’m good like you guys just kind of got to find a different
solution and then usually when you say no to them they get kind of agitated then you almost will always see a dark figure standing either right behind them that you never noticed before or off in the distance and then
usually to get agitator that you don’t let them in your home and then like that’s kind of the end of it but there have been a couple of instances where they do let them into the home where into the car and then like.
It’s not until like much later that the shit kind of start to hit the van after they’ve already left so it’s like you’re allowing like a dark Spirit into you like your home.
So that’s kind of what this is based on a bunch of stories about it and then.

[10:27] No other one Ouija board is my take on looking guy tweeting the IKEA lamp commercial for like
the lamp is out on the curb and then like if it’s raining you feel sad for the lamb and then looks all nice and pretty and it’s getting all the warmth in the attention and then some was like what the hell is wrong with you.
I’m sorry for a lamp like Get over yourself so I thought let’s tell a Ouija board story where we feel sorry for the Ouija board which you know once things start to go down south so there’s a story out there called the Red Hen.
Store Africa,
they basically it’s a it’s a story called The Press about the Red Hen and where these kids they they live in the Chicago area and they go to the cemetery with the Ouija board
I’m saying it wrong as we just so we go to the cemetery with the Ouija board and they’ve use a Ouija board causing a party is wherever it’s like they’re very familiar with the Ford but nothing’s ever happened before but they decide to go to the cemetery and do this
San Jose answers and then.

[11:32] Hazard at the cemetery this for hearing noises and stuff and then the board kind of catches fire and the the planchette Melt and they’re just like so they get the hell out of there and then they come back,
then they come back to the cemetery the next day that they could they left her backpack there so they get their backpack and then everything’s been pretty much like cleaned out except like the books
but the Ouija board is still there so they bring the Ouija board back of the house will then that’s when it starts happening where they start seeing Shadow People in hearing noises the parents are likely to get rid of this bores they get rid of the board but then it ends up like
back in the house,
and like there’s ashes everywhere and it’s like they’re just like what the hell like they thought the dog like drugs out of the trash but fuck you dog and the dog anyways then
what are those like the dog feels bad. Got yelled at so then.
They they they they they bury the board in the yard and that’s a steal there’s like the stuff that’s happening and then eventually they call it a priest and the priest try to get rid of it and it kind of like cause everything down that they still see the shadow person.
That’s essentially the where.
This part of the story comes from is the IKEA lamp commercial combined with a red hen Ouija board story so.

[12:51] Plus we’re putting our own take on it so then we also got another short that will hopefully be rolling the trailer at least a trailer for 2 years ago.
And I was waiting to put together the Indiegogo but because we want actually raise a budget for this one.
In order to for real hopefully industry professionals because part of the game is to always continue to grow and,
up the ante so I kind of rolled through the roles there’s two main roles.
I would like to bring in someone with a little bit of name recognition.
Bringing some name recognition the basically up our game a little bit to show that we’re actually serious about advancing.

[13:40] And stand the top. This is the big one I’m working with we met a friends at a festival and we can become friends with Deborah Voorhees who was in Friday the 13th Part 5.
So this is kind of where my wheelhouse gets really geeky because Friday 13th always been my franchise I grew up watching that series and especially like part 5 was one of the first horror films I saw so to be able to meet her.
Was really kind of cool and then not only that but she and her husband are like extremely down-to-earth.
And extremely friendly and they’re kind of at the same level as what we are because she has kind of put away the acting not totally but is more focused on filmmaking now.

[14:28] Self a little bit earlier this year she’s working on a feature and she asked if I would come down to help.
Basically kind of do assistant directing and slash assistant camera and the feature that she’s got that kind of time to the Shameless plugs to is called 13 Fanboy and the premise is,
there’s a fanboy from the Friday the 13th franchise that is killing off actors from the Friday the 13th franchise.

[14:57] So she’s got a lot of sense but she had the story before she met you right oh yeah 13th alumni to to work with.

[15:13] Julia Robinson for part for Tracy Savage from part 3 CJ Graham Tom Matthews from part 6 so I am like totally geeking out because these are all people that I.
Grew up in my ring but it is it’s our in order to keep it,
my dick Thomas I dial so you know to be professional on the set and that we put together her little teaser we shot it over the course of 3 days went down to New Mexico
and it was it turned out really good so hopefully she’ll be put up the Indiegogo soon that’s why.
Hopefully today as we as we talk I told her around plug-in so nice will be shooting that next year it’s going to be a big process I’ll probably going down to New Mexico quite a bit.

[15:58] Hopefully you know it is a really fun project she’s got a lot of people involved that are really fun there’s these two guys that made.
It’s a short film called Never hike alone which is the Friday the 13th fan film it’s considered like one of the best the best fan film,
she’s got them involved and.
Listening to them their take on the Friday the 13th world is phenomenal because it’s like they’re actually like fans and they want to continue the Original Stories not just throw it out there for a cash grab the way that the new ones,
the way they’re talking about with the new one so,
so yes that’s kind of been the big one is not actually doing my own feature but helping them out with.
What’s theirs so that’s awesome be a lot of fun so look for more information on that suit,
capsule Lilly I’ll be sure you send me the link when that tomato goes up and we will put that on blast for you to say yes cuz it it slices and she’s very much like what we are a growing filmmaker who you know,
doesn’t have the Hollywood resources which is even though she was in a major film I mean a lot of those actors are.
You don’t have to work day jobs and no there there little fleeting moment of flame,
yeah that’s who she’s the music video music videos and short films and.

[17:23] So I just focusing on directing and writing.
That’s where we connected it was you know I’ve done everything I’ve done audio going to work on short films as a grip and.

[17:36] So bringing an expertise of people who know what the hell they’re doing.

[17:39] Absolutely what are you guys doing what the hell you’re doing to though some days it’s hard for.
A lot of our short films at Granite Falls we were up there for.
In an art museum.
So we we show that we actually had a bigger audience of what I thought we would have a small little town and everybody was really engaged and.
Really interested about the filmmaking process so it kind of made me realize that I do no more than what I think I do.

[18:25] To talk about your babies to group of people that wanted to like,
actually they were there to see them whereas I usually when we’re talking about it’s like it’s like two friends and family or doesn’t yeah like they really don’t care like they’re supportive but they just.
Care Sultans of festivals to your talking to like-minded people so it’s kind of yeah I know how you did that you know so so that actually talk to a group of newbies.
That was really nice I totally get that I would really like to go to.
One of the bike big podcast conventions at some point for people that like.
Do the Salat and like the big shows and stuff I like podcast revolution in a few others,
they know their shit and they’re like into this culture and I want to just like you like me to just want to pull up a chair and talk about it forever right in the end for me I mean that’s what I love about going to festivals in.
Meeting like-minded people is you learn things so you know in and you see the level of what you’re at you know what we’ve been to festivals where I’ve seen some shorts that are just like.
They’re not as their beginner and I’ve seen some that’s like holy shit how did you do that you know so it is.

[19:39] Okay I mean.
We finally fight for like the first time we actually had a relative come to come with us to one of our festivals in like we’ve never had family come to a festival with us,
I don’t like it was nice like they got to see kind of like how we get treated and like how people can look at us in the filmmaking community so,
just to kind of be like almost like see you like we do people do know who we are I think we know what we do is you don’t eat and interesting and so and plus to experience it on a big screen,
you don’t see it on the computer at home and I get to see it like a small tiny screen wears like this time I got to see it like on the big screen and get to experience like,
do you know that we got interviewed like before our film show you know the photos that we get to the other people take of us and then heal after the film shows the Applause and then I was going up on stage and doing the interview so like there’s a hole,
process that they don’t get to witness you know, like I’ve basically like a little moment like in the Sun so that’s all we get is that those little do you know 20 minutes.
Plus you know the way I shoot is.

[20:50] Fetish I need to change at the film cuz it always sounds wrong when did nowadays when you’re saying I didn’t think of it but yeah you’re right he had to go he was going to go,
film some judges at the courthouse I got here to shoot the judges in the the guard you like white white white for the big screen I mean that’s the way I,
what I how I experience stuff you know,
I know there’s other directors who film for the small little to the phone and I just can’t do that I want to see a big you know I want to see the bigger than life and get the details in the background not just.
Overall story and I hope so I think if you’re going for scares I mean or big the big screen is part of the.
Entire experience of 444 which to me is a cliche jump-scare.
It plays very flat on the computer but we showed it on a few big screens and it actually got reactions which I’m like.

[21:57] Oh shit I didn’t realize that actually like screamed like
and that’s part of it too if that’s going to be tough that template I should ask you about is when you doing something like with a twister with horror stuff like that it’s like.
How do you keep from and maybe there’s no way to getting desensitized to it when you’re like as if you’re doing all that editing and planning and everything else just going to like.
You know how do you how do you up jective Lee tell okay this is still working the timing is still good for,
for the scare when do you it’s just like you’ve just seen it like share it doesn’t.
And usually in the pre-production I mean I have it all mapped out when it has Martin editing because you’ll see it over and over and we probably.

[22:47] Minimum of a hundred times you know what you have to do you basically got to trust your gut on the first edit.

[22:53] Cato and Ed realize that if it’s a little bit shorter if you start to cut it down.

[23:00] ESO play quicker but it also will throw off your Rhythm because with mr. pointy there was an excellent moment.
Where is the little girl in the story The dad hands are stuffed dog.
And she rubs it against her face and she kind of plays with a little moment and it was like such a.
Great moment that we captured but I left it in the other as long as I could and I’m realizing it’s throwing the pacing off,
you know so you got up I had to cut it down a little bit so it is hard and also you just got to throw each other people that you trust and just say is the pacing off you know so once you kind of lock you’re at it leave it at that and trust that it’s there.

[23:40] You know it it’s not.
There’s no like magic like timing for like after 3 seconds then we do the scare and that’s the scientific time for when people are going to scream,
that’s my problem I’m going to have his I’m getting into my project is the.
Engineering me the software developer the designer you know I’ll going to be want to be like.
.78 pixels and when is at 38 seconds this is when the key frame rate drop.

[24:14] Seinfeld atmosphere and like pizza after a while and one thing two with four which I think the one of the reasons that mr. pointy is kind of effective is,
and this is something I learned from watching a lot of Wes Craven films is you.
Some people have to scare and then you give them a little bit of relief so they can laugh because otherwise if you don’t you’re going to get laughs unintentionally because people in order to release some of that fear is they will laugh.

[24:43] And sell with mr. pointy we build up to a scare with a little bit of a Down moment and then we go right back into the stairs again.
You know so just give me that little and we’ve gotten quite a few Chuckles in that moment so and it is it just building up that that tension.
And knowing when it’s time to release it is supposed to be.

[25:10] It’s like that’s not even it’s not even supposed to be a joke,
no it’s not even really that funny but we’ve got into chocolate just because I think it’s those people like it’s a little bit of a moment to let go a little bit so that’s very important to you know because otherwise you’re going to get people laughing at.
Things you didn’t end too and you’re probably going to take it personally it’s not funny but.

[25:40] Chat lot lot of plates in the air now I’m teaching a class on Monday so.
By one of the local universities that one of the professors couldn’t be there for her film studies class so she’s like would you like.
But she reached out on Facebook. She’s doing like missionary work down in Belize,
and she needed somebody to help with her classes and she did someone to teach for film so you know hey.
So she’s like we usually teach her she’s like I’ll teach The Shining and get out which are both too great films ice I would love to do while to get out but I said I would like to do The Exorcist Over The Shining.
Just because I’m more passionate about The Illusionist yeah there’s that’s an interesting choice or there’s more.

[26:39] I don’t just the film is a better the shiny likes to leave a lot open to interpretation where is The Exorcist will kind of spell a lot of it out for you but not in a way that’s dumb and you down you know it’s it’s you definitely have to pay attention but.
There’s I feel there’s more symbolism there’s more you’re the whole face versus science the whole year you know why is the the devil supposably it you know possessing little girl where’s the shiny just more of a straightforward like a ghost story.
Yeah well go semi quiet yeah mentally deranged like abusive you know.

[27:15] Father whatever husband or whatever.
Show me on that is that The Exorcist is deeper cuz like yeah that religious acts as a,
first yeah The Shining and sisters crazy mother fucker they just sit there and type the same goddamn thing,
and yeah I mean it’s creepy as fuck but it’s different background and all,
like Mike that room 237 or whatever movies that that thing was like that was like Rob.
Was just going on and on about conspiracy theories with it or like it little Easter eggs and it was like holy shit mind
so is a lot of that was done as as cuz I started to watch and I got irritated because I’m like they’re just reaching and a lot of it there too kind of cars in the end when you cut away now there’s only for cars or something,
yo that’s his his meaning of why he fake the moon landing inside.
The Indian face on the coffee cans of Americans,
and in the thing is I think unfortunate The Shining that the missed opportunity is what Stephen King complained about is his book was written as a slow descent into madness.

[28:39] When the shiny comes on you see Jack Nicholson he’s already crazy to begin with he didn’t portray it as well,
I like it. A lot of 5 months away from other people sounds great yeah to it just
it was a nice lower $0.02 so.
That’s what I likes I’ve always gravitated towards the Exorcist just because it’s a brilliant and revisiting it yesterday I was just like.

[29:12] It makes me think I got to read watch it because I’m just like I’m agree to disagree about which one is dumb is better probably but still Iris I respect your opinion and I’m just like it makes me want to read watch The Exorcist in Lake.

[29:26] Pay closer attention maybe it wasn’t until this year that I saw The Shining all the way through from start to finish and now I’ve seen it.
Two or three times like that because I have a lot of free time at my job and there’s free Arthur’s there’s channels to watch that has old movies on it all the time.
But you are absolutely right yeah that,
you know right away you can tell there’s something peeler about him and I’ve never read the book so I think that that’s I need to go back and read the book.
Will thus the Kubrick when I know the Teeny one they made a while back was like an actual face.
All three versions and all three are very individual on their own.
You know I didn’t they just the threads are the same throughout but if they’re just individual you know to their to their own.
And I need to reread that because it was it just broke it down perfectly so yeah but I don’t think I’ve seen,
The Exorcist all the way from start to finish ever because it’s always freaked me out because it’s a slow building it’s this little girls to send into.

[30:50] Basically become in this possessed entity that you know and it’s it it’s really depending on which version you watched the original theatrical version they cut out.

[31:01] A scene which explains why this girl is possessed where’s the director’s cut,
well it’s he didn’t really call of directors they called it the version you’ve never seen they put that back in because he realized years later that the writer was right they needed that scene back in.
It is basically the heart of it is is.

[31:21] I don’t think so where is like how the hell did she get for the heart of the film is you know because the question that father Karras ask is why this little girl.
And father Mariners like it’s not about the little girl it’s about everybody in the house,
he’s possessing her to teach them all that Humanity sucks and that God doesn’t love them because he’s able to possess a little girl and there’s nothing they can do about it,
and I was so when they took that out in the original version it’s like it is a little on-the-nose but it also.
It’s the point home so,
selfie app so that’s the.
I know I’m really looking forward to teaching that so that’s that’s super awesome,
ask about can I go and I’m just like what maybe I could do something outside of that.
You should just do like a lecture series or something at some point like a three-part or something,
absolutely never never considered being a teacher but I might Maybe.

[32:42] Away to finally geek out about it and I’ll cuz I did I told the teacher I said you’re giving me an opportunity to like.
Deep dive on a conversation that I normally don’t get to you know cuz most people talk about her and they’re just might turn away.

[32:59] Before we get to Ben was hoping you’ve seen it so we can talk about it cuz I don’t have anyone to talk to,
have you seen heredity I’ve been putting it off I will I will I just I just watch the quiet but I’m a little behind cuz been busy but a quiet place.
Is Fairview Pacific pie place I have not okay that’s one it as is from a writing Sandpoint.
They always talk about when you’re writing scripts is to show not tell in that movie is perfect example of what to show and not to tell it because there’s things in there that is that the one with the,
the monsters attack of the Hat makes this sound.
I have seen most of it I have a real hard like suspension of disbelief with the like how that would function on a practical.
Level thing. They did a really good job with her.
The thing that and a great example of the show not tell is that they they make Trails of sand and they walk on the sand.
And then they just showed their foot and they’re not making any sound so it’s not going to explain to you why this is why we do it you know so to me that that’s a lesson in screenwriting right there.

[34:15] But now her and her II it is on my list I’ve heard enough about why I don’t know about the ending but I’ve heard it’s pretty fucked up so oh my God.
I really like house The Haunting of Hill House but there were a few people who like brought it offers like yeah it just could have Serenity and it was like.

[34:34] No well it’s good as a good story but it is not.
There’s nothing nothing fuck as fucked up as heredity so far that I’ve I’ve seen when I checked it out now that’s yeah that’s why.
Like a Serbian film I’ve not yet watch just because I’ve heard enough for stories about it but it’s one of those I got to be in the right mood to prepare for,
I have not see I’m not as immersed in the World of Warships anime horror movies so you may see it to be like.
It was intense but I have a lot of the four friends I have that I’ve mentioned that it’s pretty pretty upsetting so so.
It’s pretty upsetting,
it is apparently really mess up your mind that’s High Praise like that it is so upsetting it will Ford 8 awesome that’s it for me that you know the Exorcist was one of those stones that when I saw it.
Probably too yeah I just like totally screwed me up everything about this thing.
It has a horse and you try do you do get desensitized after a while to where you want to see.

[35:47] The things that are going to scare you the other things are going to make you turn on the light as opposed to a normal person who doesn’t watch for you know who gets scared at.

[35:57] Now I mean that says the short films we shall be in a few people like oh my God I got really scared at mr. pointy and I’m just like.

[36:04] Really.

[36:12] That’s all that nut shots mm.
Jackie keep us posted on what you got going on because we love hearing about it love promoting it and lots and lots of last I can if we can we talk to I’m always.
Like a year or two ahead on where things are going so.

[36:30] Absolutely so Nicole tell us a little bit about Midwest medium.
So is my YouTube channel where I put out monthly horoscope forecast videos.
I’ve been practicing as a psychic for the last 6 years now and have recently.
So I’ll do a deep dive we have time right now so okay so I’ve been practicing as a as like a psychic for like the last 6 years and when I first like I’ve been intuitive my whole life and.

[37:15] It’s coming it’s kind of common like waves you know like ads inflows were like I’ve gone through. Are my life where I’m just like or really want to develop the skill I really want to like
get more into it and then I’ve also gone the opposite way over I guess this is all bullshit like I really don’t have this ability but then it always comes back with a vengeance of just like no dummy you really do have this gift I’m one of the most profound moment that I had was I want to see was back in like
2003 or so.

[37:43] Basically was a Super Bowl where Janet Jackson had her wardrobe mishap and I was looking up in Brookings at the time and,
friend of mine he wanted to go down this we want to go out of Sioux Falls to go shopping at the mall because it’s going to eat them all usually dead on Superbowl Sunday so he comes to my house and picks me up
and as soon as I put my hand on the roof of his car my vision completely like went away all I saw was just like white
and swirling snow and I just felt myself spending I just heard people saying oh God oh God oh God and I knew that our car was going to go into the ditch
well then finally when I come to and I honestly have no idea like how how long I kind of blanked out,
all my friends are looking at me like what’s wrong with you I’m like oh oh I’m fine,
just be careful while we’re driving down to Sioux Falls and and they’re just like oh okay whatever so then we’re the roads up by Brookings are fine but as we get closer to Sioux Falls,
the roads got a little worse and so am I scaring you please watch the road and he’s like fixing his hair in the rearview mirror and just like most like the snow had kind of like.
Blue on Black the edge of the road so you kind of had to be careful if you’re going to pass so.

[38:54] She’s fucking with his hair and then finally we end up going into the ditch exactly how I saw it.
Only this time every everybody still saying oh God oh God oh God I’m off all like I got us I like dialing nine-one-one like I’m literally just like on the horn like getting.
You like saw this hash was like this is exactly how I feel and then I call nine-one-one,
Highway Patrol costumes and and he can make sure that we’re okay and
he’s like you know if you would have waited any longer you guys could have died of carbon monoxide poisoning cause your tail light was completely submerged in the snow and we’re just like dick and then I was like maybe that’s why I saw that and so that was like my first profound experience with having visions most people don’t get visions that way but
this is kind of how I experience my gifts so.

[39:54] Lucky so yeah,
that was when I was in my early twenties and I, and like I said I still went through phases here and there where I was like who’s that accept another that then eventually like when I turn 30 I just got this late,
intense desire I just like you need to learn how to be psychic it was just like I was like you need to drop everything and you need to focus on this and like you need to learn this and so I was watching a lot of,
What’s that show Long Island Medium and she has this she had a episode where she was saying like how she has a mentor and I was like that’s exactly what I need I need a mentor and so,
trying to find a psychic Mentor in Sioux Falls is a lot of fucking harder than you can imagine yes there are psychics here in town but not.
None of them are interested in developing individuals,
Lakers there’s nothing on their website that say oh by the way they teach this or oh hey if you want to contact me and we can work together you know none of that and if they do they want to charge you like an arm a leg to do it I feel like I don’t have that kind of budget for it so.

[41:03] I did find one psychic who who sat on her website that she does mentoring as I perfect that’s exactly what I need,
what I go and she was associated with this Facebook page called the sanctuary and that’s where she has her office is out of it’s literally like Parker Jamal at where the Pickle Barrel is like above their so
I can’t I reach out to the sanctuaries Facebook page and I get a response back that’s and there’s like I’m so sorry but my car isn’t has moved on to Kansas City but my name’s Angela Johnson and I can offer your body talk session I would like.
What’s body talk so.

[41:35] I got a body talk session and then Angela said that you know there’s mindscape classes on my what’s mindscape and that’s vent it’s basically like a Layman’s way of learning to develop your intuition they don’t,
directly talk about psychic or anything like that they’re just they just.
The kind of like sugar coat it was saying this is you using your natural intuition but they make its science-based to which is like I am 100% on board at this point but they talk about you know the difference
the different wavelengths of your brain and how you like you know getting to the alpha State how you can be more into more things when you’re in the office States and they talked about various so you know science.

[42:14] Inventors like Einstein and Tesla and like how they use meditation to help them come up with their ideas how Tesla
never had any blueprints everything was out of his mind and he can build things just by going into basically his mental workshop and building them just that way like he would go into his Workshop
in his mind and like creepy invention and then he would just go out into the world and do it never had a blueprint.

[42:41] So it’s so it was kind of like using your mind to its fullest extent and so I
so but using the mindscape principles of kind of how I develop more by intuition and doing my readings and then hooked up with the local psychic who was willing to like practice with me and kind of give me
that basically it’s the feet that I needed to come and get rolling and then a
bodytalk friend wait time at the bodytalk community she’s like have you ever heard of the psychic readings Carmel Joy Baird and
she has a TV show called Mom the medium which is basically like she like Canada’s Theresa Caputo but out of Canada.
And I was like no I’ve never heard of her and she’s like well she’s has this mediumship masterclass,
where she’s only taking on like 10 people but I think if you apply you will get in,
there’s no way like she’s way too famous like she’s like over 30,000 fans on Facebook hundred thousands of people that she deals with an email on a daily basis there’s no way I’ll get into this course so well nothing ventured nothing gained so
I did my first application and I got past the first hurdle and I was like.
Okay that’s fair you know what I have some psychic background like that makes sense on why I would get past round one.
Play in round 2 came and I was like I don’t know if I should do this because you know there was just there there was some things I just didn’t know if I could do it in my friends just like.

[44:09] Just go for it like and I was like so basically I had like a day to the side and then I was like alright fine so I went through the second application process. Past the second hurdle and I was like,
oh God this is getting real hair getting really close now and then the third phase is having an actual at like interview with her
and then she she like I like that you’re from South Dakota I like that you basically you have a job and as like an analyst it’s a very like grounded job and and you seem pretty normal so I’d like to welcome you into this class I was like.
What so I got into this mentorship course so I’ve been publicly out as a psychic since probably,
I don’t know April ish and I didn’t launch my Facebook page until not till July.
And so just like the momentum of like how everything’s has been kind of falling into place is just been.
Mind-blowing to me considering looks like I’ve been doing it privately for so long I really struggling with it because I really do enjoy giving readings and helping people but just like them building up the mediumship part of it is just been really.
Just incredible to me and then also just you know.

[45:20] Like people coming to me like getting the interview on Kelo and you know doing my my my monthly videos and everything and just young really spreading the word so.
And yes I do offer mentoring because it’s something that we really lack here so.
So you have to go up to Canada then to yeah that’s why I’m on the coast of Russia like in the middle 19 hour drive from.
From Sioux Falls up to Edmonton I fly so clip 6 hours so but she does do she offers classes online to have courses her.

[46:07] And so you can do courses with her but I’m working on getting horses here so I will be offering I don’t know the dates yet because,
I have to get that nail down yet but I will be having a psychic development weekend up in Watertown there’s a nice Retreat facility up there they have a therapy horse ranch so I know you’re nice like two and a half days of psychic
development so that’s pretty cool so having a very excitable donkey and a pig who,
may or may not be aggressive when he might have just been really happy to see me though to either it’s hard to determine a pig’s mood when they come running at you
but they can only have a few mode some yeah.
Then I asked if you would have said excitable donkey and some you know man eating chickens I would have said Mexico but oh okay okay.

[47:11] I wish I could go over there but
hey Dad develop into kind of a TV show where my talk interview other local psychics and people in the holistic healing Community direct to the TV show,
I don’t know some of the brand brand new on Blaine Avenue I don’t know I think he’s,
yeah so Dominic helps me a lot with it’s actually a nice collaboration between the what I know for the video and what she knows in her world because I know nothing about that the psychic mediumship so.
It’s I know but I know everything is well not everything I know a lot about the video world so it’s like I can help you make good videos and that was part of the.

[47:57] Looking at some of the psychic videos online it’s all
people like sitting in their kitchen using their iPhone you have to get that unflattering lighting the angle is just nasty
and they’re just really poor sounds on my bullshit I know we can top that immediately right out of.

[48:16] Yeah one of my friends who is also a local psychic he said he saw my videos her first I was like damn she does not fucking around like that looks impressive so
yeah it does it’s very polished thank you thank you so much so
said to me that was just a rough draft so we’re going to only going to get better and they have this new lighting system where basically you can choose
busy can change it to whatever kind of color that you want because,
promise a white while they’re literally just playing up against a white wall but they have these colored lights they kind of bringing so like every month I get to change the color.
The Velvet of the videos so I noticed that and I was like I was like I don’t
I didn’t care for the intensely I kind of wanted it like a little bit more like.
Pastel blue but you get what you get so.
No it was the the flu that was so you know I liked it cuz it looks really good on video but yeah you know obviously she didn’t it wasn’t what she was going.

[49:30] I am well enough you ripping to it’s it’s kind of intimidating.
When they’re like it’s like okay sorry you had to choose whatever it is that you want tell us what you do tell us how you want and it’s just like a little ones so it’s kind of nice also kind of like holy shit like I got to make,
but I have to pick like what am I wearing what am I having on the table do I gets the right go down to bless of things and get some crystals cuz I was everything looks like I want blessed things to be.
Those blasted things are out of liver and they do look for it like a crystal and rock shop out there and they’re super nice people and we’ve known them for years and so I just went to them one day I was like hey would you mind if I.
Dad grabbed a piece of real crystals from your shop and put it on display and kind of promoted to work though yeah whatever you want I’m like Okay cool so is it okay if I take this huge amethyst Crystal
no whatever you want make money from a series of $300 Crystal knows I can’t take it that’s fine like,
that’s awesome what kind of special thing to do with it don’t break it,
took brought it you know pick it up the day before brought it back the next day or so I called her yeah yeah it’s kind of nice to have that kind of freedom but it’s also like I got to think of those things
yeah like what do I want to have like on the table with me I thought I had been primarily using criminals deck of cards because of the butterfly decorations basically oracle cards cuz there’s a difference I just learned cuz I’ve never used any tools and I do my reading I’m strictly just intuition based.

[51:00] A lot of other psychics will use tools like tarot cards oracle cards there’s a difference and you know using ruins and you know other type of like means of ice crying information and so she wants us to know in this master class to really get
find chundos then use those tools cuz your Sunday going to have a client that only wants
a rune reading we only want a tarot reading they don’t want your intuition they just want,
then you’re using your intuition what they want a tool to for them to be able to relate to the reading so that’s been.
An interesting challenge but it’s been fun so.
So the difference between an oracle cards and tarot cards,
Dom’s suit of cards were there you have like the major Arcana the month the minor account he had the one given nights you have the death card that you have that never changes from deck to deck like if you pick up a deck of tarot cards it’s always going to have those same
the same cards in it,
oracle cards is where a person can design a deck of cards just using signs and symbols that they feel the long and their deck of cards and that can change from
every single deck like you’re never going to get the same card in any deck.

[52:20] So I like I have a deck of cards Oracle Deck with me today.

[52:26] This is carmel’s butterfly deck that I brought with me and so it’s basically.
They’re just signs and symbols like there’s this one that says give back there’s no selfless Good Deed helping others is helping you and you just kind of like you just draw four cards from the deck and then you just kind of whatever the question is you just kind of.

[52:49] Do you Freebase off of that there’s ask right here that says time to move,
I’m you’re leaving one busy or life and moving on to another so they wanted like the luck card Lady Luck is on your side plurals of what her coming to you now or is it other Dex these symbols might be represented in a different way,
okay so that’s kind of the difference with an oracle deck versus a Tarot deck so it’s really cool.

[53:16] I’m really glad I brought the visual aids day week so.
A little bit about that and the Midwest medium and.

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[54:08] There’s there’s all sorts of artists but.
There. Yeah did you guys are kind of different in your own thing and it’s just.
I definitely I can admire your your guys’s,
skills because it’s not common never just wanted to be one of those people that just talks about hey let’s get together,
do it you know and it’s that’s why I lot of time yeah on Facebook you know I see people post you know let’s get together make a movie this weekend and then it never have.
It’s like yeah you know gets it down and make it happen you know it’s not going to let you just put in the work and I went nuts.
It’s not a glorious you know I mean.
You know I’m working with some actors and stuff on set that it’s like always exciting all the time it’s like it’s not boring and exciting part is to get to go off talk about it.
You know but the actual working is it sucks it’s long hours and I mean on on the taser that I worked on WE shot until 4 in the morning and had to be back up at 6 to get the sunrise you know so it’s like.

[55:21] Two hours late what whatever motivates you drives you compels you I appreciate that so yeah.

[55:30] Thanks and plugs last time I let.
Sonic offers so sorry what are you going to your shoe when is this one dropping,
Obama still going to plug the two things I put last time cuz it’s still coming up so November 10th is a body lab health and holistic
holistic health fair I will be there all readings from if that’s always at the Best Western Ramkota and is from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. and just come over to my table I think I’m doing readings for $20 for 15 minutes
South Philly study but I’ll do it I’ll be reading by I think I’m going to.

[56:10] It’s just that I do like I’ve basically just be like a psychic reading in it and a mediumship reading if mediumship comes up so I’m doing that all day from
10 to 5 and then on November 16th I’m doing a live Gallery reading out of the
white wall Studio that’s on the east side at the East Side last stop and that’s just $40 to get in and if you’re thinking like an element so expensive well I got to pay my studio people because
they do this for money and so it’s important to pay them so that’s why
I know this is a new concept is an exposure good enough
Kick-Ass how do you pay your doctor
yeah so it’s about time it’s kind of a little bit more expensive if you feel it’s expensive and yeah so that was at 7 p.m. is when we’re going to start
this is for that stuff starts and if you never been to a gallery reading what it is is basically a you would.
You attend the event with the hope that the medium takes you to connect to your loved ones and usually the medium stand up at the front and says like oh this is person contacting me this died of blah blah blah and then.

[57:30] Basically I rely on the audience to say oh that’s my dead loved one
I’m being really insensitive but basically like they say like all that’s my person and then I’m like oh yes it is and then come on up so then I do reading from there I’m doing a little bit differently because we have cameras going so so
your chances of getting to connect with your loved one is a little bit better,
it’s still a lottery system so basically when you arrive or not put over everybody’s name into a big bowl and I’ll just drawn names and kind of go from there versus relying on who’s allowed to Spirit,
talking in my ear right now so just to to to vouch I am a huge.
Mulder in this situation.
And there there are some things that she is able to pull that I’m like there’s absolutely no possible way you could have known that about that person so,
it’s not this vague I’m holding up a stopwatch you know when did set you know the.
It belongs to somebody’s grandfather well you know some of those things are very obvious and call details that are just like.

[58:51] Okay I have no clue how you knew that.
Yeah I mean I can give a little example there was this woman that I was reading for and.
This little girl came through and she’s wearing a hospital gown and she was like 8 but age for your forks I see everything visually inside my head and I was like,
and I know I should never do this but I did it
I did anyways I told you was a child but sometimes if you lose a child at like a very young age they will show a little bit more grown-up and she’s like nope nope never lost a child.
And sound like okay that was stupid I shouldn’t have said that and then I’m like well she’s being very insistent that you know her that you had an experience with her and then I’ll send you all my God,
I know exactly who that is on my
can I go on and she said she grew up having a heart condition and so she had to go to the hospital at to get heart surgery while there’s is one time.

[59:48] I want they were Wheeling her into her room she was sharing a room with another child
and this child was already deceased when they put her in the room together and that has always stuck with her and she was just so scared by seeing this other little girl already deceased
and then the little the little boy in the hospital
suggest years ago so I know so and so then then the little girl Spirit starts,
Cuts in and says I just wanted to let you know that I am so sorry that you had to see me
deceased like that and that I am taking care of all of your animals for you on the other side and then she showed me all of her animals and just would like
perfect detail it was just like I was able to list like if there’s like five or six animals that she had on the other side just like the different like spots on them the different colors of them like I could see all these animal that she was taking care of oh my God that’s the saying Alyssa that this
what is this that she’s like I can’t believe it so just like feel like interactions that like you have with people throughout your life.

[1:00:55] It’s people like they remember those things on the other side and sold and they take care of you on the other side so it was just really phenomenal,
feel like have it experience and it’s like I can not make this like that was like I could never make that up
absolutely not what I went with like I was thinking like this is a child she laughs and turns out it wasn’t it was somebody that she hadn’t just like a one-off interaction with so it was just an incredible experience so.

[1:01:23] Do you want an incredible experience book reading so yeah so.
So that’s the bed Gallery reading sorry for the awesome.
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[1:01:53] We should about the time this is Aaron have the our life episode from Super time coming up on the schedule so.
Yeah be sure to check out that with the the gentleman from Ghost Mine just shows up and I didn’t want to cruise to the whole crew is like,
what’s got a little taken aback I’m just but I think but I got, and everybody is that was the people I talk to her cuz I got you handled it really well so like.
God I was so bogged down that week that yeah it was a long weekend indeed,
but yeah be sure to check out my cop grimoire the dress code we’ve got an episode coming up that’s going to have Shawn cable from ksfy on the dress code what should be really interesting wow let’s see.

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Is it Dinner or Supper in South Dakota?

When you were a child, were you called in for supper or dinner? Even as interest in the term “supper” has faded, it turns out that there is actually a difference between supper and dinner. Of course, if you were called in for supper, you know this difference well, but if you were from a dinner family, it might not be so obvious.

While many would be apt to say that supper is an especially Southern thing, that’s simply not the case. Let’s start with the basics of the big meal to tackle the dinner/supper conundrum.

Dinner does not imply a time of day and simply references the main meal, or the largest meal, of the day. One can eat dinner at any time, and since there is no time implied (afternoon or evening), dinner has become the modern catch-all term for the evening meal. As points out, “the word ‘dinner’ comes from the Vulgar Latin word disjējūnāre, meaning ‘to break one’s fast.’” While this is most closely related to breakfast in English, the meaning of dinner still influences how we use it and it has become the most popular word for the largest meal eaten of the day.

Despite dinner’s catch-all phrasing, supper comes from the specific Old French word souper, which means the evening meal in the English language. Because the time of day is explicitly stated, it is related to the late afternoon or early evening meal. Supper is most often a light meal. One of the most intriguing differences between dinner and supper is the time of day they imply for guests when you are having a gathering.

In some rural parts of the country in the 1800s, dinner actually meant the midday meal (lunchtime) and supper referred to the evening meal of dinner. In fact, I remember being a kid on a trip to Kentucky and hearing lunch referred to as dinner, with the promise of a supper club later. How confusing is that?

So what are the regional divisions of the terms? It’s not necessarily an American South or Midwestern tradition, but instead is a farming families’ trademark. Because the Southern and Midwestern states were heavily agricultural, supper was implicitly the lighter, late evening meal and dinner was the larger, main meal of the day.

According to food historian Helen Zoe Veit in an excellent NPR interview. Dinner was traditionally the noon meal, and the biggest meal was in the early afternoon during the 19th centuries to fuel the farmers, their workers, and their families so that they could finish out their day strong and steady.

With its agricultural history, it’s no surprise where the search term ‘supper’ on Google is most active. Wisconsin, South Dakota, North Dakota, Minnesota, and Iowa take home the cake for the most frequent search results.

Supper in these homes also referred to the soup cooking on the stovetop, often all day long, for a lighter meal before bed. As more American families moved away from farming and agricultural endeavors, the large meal of dinner took the place of suppertime because it was the only meal each day that middle class families were able to share together after working and attending school outside of the home.