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Sioux Empire Podcast 128 Mr. Pointy and Midwest Medium

In part two of our Spooktacular Halloween episodes, we get down to business with award-winning horror filmmakers Dominic Wieneke and Ari Show with Warwolf productions.  We deep dive on both Ari and Dominic’s current and future creative projects including filmmaking and Ari’s Midwest Medium project. This week’s episode is brought to you by our great supporters on Patreon.  If you’d like to support the work we do here at the Sioux Empire Podcast Network, visit to find out how. The Sioux Empire Podcast knows there is always a monster in our closet.

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[0:50] Welcome to the Sioux Empire podcast the quirky but harmless podcast so about Sioux Empire news, music of culture I am your host Robert mehling and joining me as always is Seth wearing a beanie Glover hey what’s up.
Also with us this week is air a show.
Also as area Nicole the Midwest medium yes very cool and then also joining us is her her.
Crime partner in crime that’s the title we going okay is Dominic winicki film director extraordinaire.
Let’s see so this week we are last week we did a Halloween episode we did the book club with the Spells and we did,
all that fun stuff this time around we are just going to talk to you guys this is all about mr. pointy and request medium and whatever else warwolf is God,
you know on the rotors and Brewing so I don’t let you guys dictate where you want to start with all that cuz you guys have a lot of stuff you do oh you are very prolific and you have a lot to unpack so,
or feel free to Jump On In do you want me to tell you which one to start with or do you have a choice of where do you want to tell me about mr. pointy pointy is a four-and-a-half minute short film that we shot last November.
It’s about the synopsis I’ve been using it’s about a little girl who tries to convince her dad there’s a monster in the closet.

[2:18] It said as as a filmmaker I want to challenge myself to tell the smallest story I could so.
It was an idea of let’s set this in a bedroom with a child going to bed and of course you know when a child goes to bed there always has to be a monster in the closet so,
it’s we shot it over the course of a day I schedule it for 8 hours or shot it in 6 which so I feel like getting better never happens.
And the biggest challenge we had with it is is the little girl we got a local actress,
Iceland Curry this was her first acting she’s what ate the whole story kind of hinges on the child’s performance I wanted a child was a little bit younger.

[3:02] But.

[3:05] It’s hard so I been that and it really starts to be hard to actually like that’s what you really need somebody who is like a professional child actor that died young like that no tokens and the Rings
yeah they’re too hot.
What’s Elijah Woods both her parents cuz they have audition for me in the past and I really liked.
Both of their performance are they just went right for the role and so I figured if they’re comfortable in front of the camera that good acting chops obviously one of their.

[3:41] For five kids that they have at this point should be should be fairly comfortable so I hit them up and says hey I like to use one of your kids for the weekend.

[3:50] It’s going well,
I said this is the Eastern Europe you got to pick the child from the child tank
it’s good good teeth and strong back
their kids range anywhere from like 10 to like 3 So I says you know you kind of you which one do you think would be more comfortable.
And that she chose aislyn and she she knocked out of the park I’m also the the actor that we had Lando who have worked with in the past.
She he himself has four five kids so he knew how to work with kids plus he’s he’s also.
It his day job works with kids what he does relying on him.
More than probably normal just because I’ve never worked with kids before so but a tax return on what we’ve been in up to right now venid 11 festivals.
We have won some awards we got second place audience Choice Award at slash & Bash in Lawrence Kansas.

[5:13] We got best for short at the South Dakota film festival and we also just one audience Choice Award at.

[5:24] Slice slice of Cinema in Michigan.
So yeah it’s been getting out there it’s been getting a really good review.
Yeah I think I think the part that I really gets people is like a diesel and delivers us one line that’s very cliche.

[5:42] Beer here kind of like that and that’s it’s kind of like a little Cuts Like a popular comeback phrase that everybody kind of says,
and then when she delivers this one line that it could everybody in the oven to go like she said it and now it’s like a shit hits the fan,
it’s high speed story really well so I don’t know if you want to give it away like I don’t know if,
Darfield Missouri inclusive like we’re cotton would try to like be a little bit time for this kind of.
We live in an area where it is very.
Haven’t noticed yeah you don’t say so weird we’re definitely working trying to bring in.
You know other actors looking at rolls that you know cuz what I wrote mr. Point well.

[6:44] Okay look what I did when I write family Dynamic to you she just go with a the typical what you grow up with a mom and a dad.
But looking at some of the things that writings and saying well why can’t they just be two dads why can’t they be to Mom’s you know
why does what have to be white will have to be black you know so just kind of looking at things like that just trying to be more diverse and in Del Sol.

[7:08] From what we’ve been seeing at festivals we seem to be right in line with where a lot of other filmmakers are looking at 2 so it’s definitely a nice.

[7:18] Nice to know that we’re on par with everybody else.
Nice something in South Dakota ahead of the curb.
So we’re hoping that mr. pointy will be out as online.
Release that and I’ve been looking at some options to maybe see if we can get a little bit of distribution on it but it’s a short film it’s only four and a half minutes so,
am I just throwing up online and see how plays Farkle.

[7:56] What else is werewolf going going down we have a lot let’s see I am currently working on a new feature which hopefully will be.
Shooting maybe hopefully next year pre-production has not yet started just because the script is not a hundred percent yet.

[8:17] We have a couple of shorts.

[8:25] Cuz I was on there for both of them for black eyed girl in a Ouija board.

[8:32] Can I give you the ideas for both of them I’ve been going on.
Creepypasta I like to grab stories from there so we got one black eyed girl which is the next one we’re going to be shooting.
Is basically about I mean there’s been films and stories about the black-eyed children but nothing,
nobody ever tells you what happens when you let one of the children into your house that was about thank God I didn’t exactly.

[9:06] There’s another urban legend stories out there too and you can find one Reddit where there’s these black eyed children you can be in your car and your house and is always like a really bad storm going on rain snow whatever,
Andy’s tooth is always two children will approach you,
and they will want be let into your car into your home to like use your phone or for safety so they want to like invade your personal space and usually the the the the Storyteller is always like.
Well I got a really creepy vibe from these kids and then you look at these kids and their eyes and you see that they’re just completely black and then
you’re like no no thanks I’m good like you guys just kind of got to find a different
solution and then usually when you say no to them they get kind of agitated then you almost will always see a dark figure standing either right behind them that you never noticed before or off in the distance and then
usually to get agitator that you don’t let them in your home and then like that’s kind of the end of it but there have been a couple of instances where they do let them into the home where into the car and then like.
It’s not until like much later that the shit kind of start to hit the van after they’ve already left so it’s like you’re allowing like a dark Spirit into you like your home.
So that’s kind of what this is based on a bunch of stories about it and then.

[10:27] No other one Ouija board is my take on looking guy tweeting the IKEA lamp commercial for like
the lamp is out on the curb and then like if it’s raining you feel sad for the lamb and then looks all nice and pretty and it’s getting all the warmth in the attention and then some was like what the hell is wrong with you.
I’m sorry for a lamp like Get over yourself so I thought let’s tell a Ouija board story where we feel sorry for the Ouija board which you know once things start to go down south so there’s a story out there called the Red Hen.
Store Africa,
they basically it’s a it’s a story called The Press about the Red Hen and where these kids they they live in the Chicago area and they go to the cemetery with the Ouija board
I’m saying it wrong as we just so we go to the cemetery with the Ouija board and they’ve use a Ouija board causing a party is wherever it’s like they’re very familiar with the Ford but nothing’s ever happened before but they decide to go to the cemetery and do this
San Jose answers and then.

[11:32] Hazard at the cemetery this for hearing noises and stuff and then the board kind of catches fire and the the planchette Melt and they’re just like so they get the hell out of there and then they come back,
then they come back to the cemetery the next day that they could they left her backpack there so they get their backpack and then everything’s been pretty much like cleaned out except like the books
but the Ouija board is still there so they bring the Ouija board back of the house will then that’s when it starts happening where they start seeing Shadow People in hearing noises the parents are likely to get rid of this bores they get rid of the board but then it ends up like
back in the house,
and like there’s ashes everywhere and it’s like they’re just like what the hell like they thought the dog like drugs out of the trash but fuck you dog and the dog anyways then
what are those like the dog feels bad. Got yelled at so then.
They they they they they bury the board in the yard and that’s a steal there’s like the stuff that’s happening and then eventually they call it a priest and the priest try to get rid of it and it kind of like cause everything down that they still see the shadow person.
That’s essentially the where.
This part of the story comes from is the IKEA lamp commercial combined with a red hen Ouija board story so.

[12:51] Plus we’re putting our own take on it so then we also got another short that will hopefully be rolling the trailer at least a trailer for 2 years ago.
And I was waiting to put together the Indiegogo but because we want actually raise a budget for this one.
In order to for real hopefully industry professionals because part of the game is to always continue to grow and,
up the ante so I kind of rolled through the roles there’s two main roles.
I would like to bring in someone with a little bit of name recognition.
Bringing some name recognition the basically up our game a little bit to show that we’re actually serious about advancing.

[13:40] And stand the top. This is the big one I’m working with we met a friends at a festival and we can become friends with Deborah Voorhees who was in Friday the 13th Part 5.
So this is kind of where my wheelhouse gets really geeky because Friday 13th always been my franchise I grew up watching that series and especially like part 5 was one of the first horror films I saw so to be able to meet her.
Was really kind of cool and then not only that but she and her husband are like extremely down-to-earth.
And extremely friendly and they’re kind of at the same level as what we are because she has kind of put away the acting not totally but is more focused on filmmaking now.

[14:28] Self a little bit earlier this year she’s working on a feature and she asked if I would come down to help.
Basically kind of do assistant directing and slash assistant camera and the feature that she’s got that kind of time to the Shameless plugs to is called 13 Fanboy and the premise is,
there’s a fanboy from the Friday the 13th franchise that is killing off actors from the Friday the 13th franchise.

[14:57] So she’s got a lot of sense but she had the story before she met you right oh yeah 13th alumni to to work with.

[15:13] Julia Robinson for part for Tracy Savage from part 3 CJ Graham Tom Matthews from part 6 so I am like totally geeking out because these are all people that I.
Grew up in my ring but it is it’s our in order to keep it,
my dick Thomas I dial so you know to be professional on the set and that we put together her little teaser we shot it over the course of 3 days went down to New Mexico
and it was it turned out really good so hopefully she’ll be put up the Indiegogo soon that’s why.
Hopefully today as we as we talk I told her around plug-in so nice will be shooting that next year it’s going to be a big process I’ll probably going down to New Mexico quite a bit.

[15:58] Hopefully you know it is a really fun project she’s got a lot of people involved that are really fun there’s these two guys that made.
It’s a short film called Never hike alone which is the Friday the 13th fan film it’s considered like one of the best the best fan film,
she’s got them involved and.
Listening to them their take on the Friday the 13th world is phenomenal because it’s like they’re actually like fans and they want to continue the Original Stories not just throw it out there for a cash grab the way that the new ones,
the way they’re talking about with the new one so,
so yes that’s kind of been the big one is not actually doing my own feature but helping them out with.
What’s theirs so that’s awesome be a lot of fun so look for more information on that suit,
capsule Lilly I’ll be sure you send me the link when that tomato goes up and we will put that on blast for you to say yes cuz it it slices and she’s very much like what we are a growing filmmaker who you know,
doesn’t have the Hollywood resources which is even though she was in a major film I mean a lot of those actors are.
You don’t have to work day jobs and no there there little fleeting moment of flame,
yeah that’s who she’s the music video music videos and short films and.

[17:23] So I just focusing on directing and writing.
That’s where we connected it was you know I’ve done everything I’ve done audio going to work on short films as a grip and.

[17:36] So bringing an expertise of people who know what the hell they’re doing.

[17:39] Absolutely what are you guys doing what the hell you’re doing to though some days it’s hard for.
A lot of our short films at Granite Falls we were up there for.
In an art museum.
So we we show that we actually had a bigger audience of what I thought we would have a small little town and everybody was really engaged and.
Really interested about the filmmaking process so it kind of made me realize that I do no more than what I think I do.

[18:25] To talk about your babies to group of people that wanted to like,
actually they were there to see them whereas I usually when we’re talking about it’s like it’s like two friends and family or doesn’t yeah like they really don’t care like they’re supportive but they just.
Care Sultans of festivals to your talking to like-minded people so it’s kind of yeah I know how you did that you know so so that actually talk to a group of newbies.
That was really nice I totally get that I would really like to go to.
One of the bike big podcast conventions at some point for people that like.
Do the Salat and like the big shows and stuff I like podcast revolution in a few others,
they know their shit and they’re like into this culture and I want to just like you like me to just want to pull up a chair and talk about it forever right in the end for me I mean that’s what I love about going to festivals in.
Meeting like-minded people is you learn things so you know in and you see the level of what you’re at you know what we’ve been to festivals where I’ve seen some shorts that are just like.
They’re not as their beginner and I’ve seen some that’s like holy shit how did you do that you know so it is.

[19:39] Okay I mean.
We finally fight for like the first time we actually had a relative come to come with us to one of our festivals in like we’ve never had family come to a festival with us,
I don’t like it was nice like they got to see kind of like how we get treated and like how people can look at us in the filmmaking community so,
just to kind of be like almost like see you like we do people do know who we are I think we know what we do is you don’t eat and interesting and so and plus to experience it on a big screen,
you don’t see it on the computer at home and I get to see it like a small tiny screen wears like this time I got to see it like on the big screen and get to experience like,
do you know that we got interviewed like before our film show you know the photos that we get to the other people take of us and then heal after the film shows the Applause and then I was going up on stage and doing the interview so like there’s a hole,
process that they don’t get to witness you know, like I’ve basically like a little moment like in the Sun so that’s all we get is that those little do you know 20 minutes.
Plus you know the way I shoot is.

[20:50] Fetish I need to change at the film cuz it always sounds wrong when did nowadays when you’re saying I didn’t think of it but yeah you’re right he had to go he was going to go,
film some judges at the courthouse I got here to shoot the judges in the the guard you like white white white for the big screen I mean that’s the way I,
what I how I experience stuff you know,
I know there’s other directors who film for the small little to the phone and I just can’t do that I want to see a big you know I want to see the bigger than life and get the details in the background not just.
Overall story and I hope so I think if you’re going for scares I mean or big the big screen is part of the.
Entire experience of 444 which to me is a cliche jump-scare.
It plays very flat on the computer but we showed it on a few big screens and it actually got reactions which I’m like.

[21:57] Oh shit I didn’t realize that actually like screamed like
and that’s part of it too if that’s going to be tough that template I should ask you about is when you doing something like with a twister with horror stuff like that it’s like.
How do you keep from and maybe there’s no way to getting desensitized to it when you’re like as if you’re doing all that editing and planning and everything else just going to like.
You know how do you how do you up jective Lee tell okay this is still working the timing is still good for,
for the scare when do you it’s just like you’ve just seen it like share it doesn’t.
And usually in the pre-production I mean I have it all mapped out when it has Martin editing because you’ll see it over and over and we probably.

[22:47] Minimum of a hundred times you know what you have to do you basically got to trust your gut on the first edit.

[22:53] Cato and Ed realize that if it’s a little bit shorter if you start to cut it down.

[23:00] ESO play quicker but it also will throw off your Rhythm because with mr. pointy there was an excellent moment.
Where is the little girl in the story The dad hands are stuffed dog.
And she rubs it against her face and she kind of plays with a little moment and it was like such a.
Great moment that we captured but I left it in the other as long as I could and I’m realizing it’s throwing the pacing off,
you know so you got up I had to cut it down a little bit so it is hard and also you just got to throw each other people that you trust and just say is the pacing off you know so once you kind of lock you’re at it leave it at that and trust that it’s there.

[23:40] You know it it’s not.
There’s no like magic like timing for like after 3 seconds then we do the scare and that’s the scientific time for when people are going to scream,
that’s my problem I’m going to have his I’m getting into my project is the.
Engineering me the software developer the designer you know I’ll going to be want to be like.
.78 pixels and when is at 38 seconds this is when the key frame rate drop.

[24:14] Seinfeld atmosphere and like pizza after a while and one thing two with four which I think the one of the reasons that mr. pointy is kind of effective is,
and this is something I learned from watching a lot of Wes Craven films is you.
Some people have to scare and then you give them a little bit of relief so they can laugh because otherwise if you don’t you’re going to get laughs unintentionally because people in order to release some of that fear is they will laugh.

[24:43] And sell with mr. pointy we build up to a scare with a little bit of a Down moment and then we go right back into the stairs again.
You know so just give me that little and we’ve gotten quite a few Chuckles in that moment so and it is it just building up that that tension.
And knowing when it’s time to release it is supposed to be.

[25:10] It’s like that’s not even it’s not even supposed to be a joke,
no it’s not even really that funny but we’ve got into chocolate just because I think it’s those people like it’s a little bit of a moment to let go a little bit so that’s very important to you know because otherwise you’re going to get people laughing at.
Things you didn’t end too and you’re probably going to take it personally it’s not funny but.

[25:40] Chat lot lot of plates in the air now I’m teaching a class on Monday so.
By one of the local universities that one of the professors couldn’t be there for her film studies class so she’s like would you like.
But she reached out on Facebook. She’s doing like missionary work down in Belize,
and she needed somebody to help with her classes and she did someone to teach for film so you know hey.
So she’s like we usually teach her she’s like I’ll teach The Shining and get out which are both too great films ice I would love to do while to get out but I said I would like to do The Exorcist Over The Shining.
Just because I’m more passionate about The Illusionist yeah there’s that’s an interesting choice or there’s more.

[26:39] I don’t just the film is a better the shiny likes to leave a lot open to interpretation where is The Exorcist will kind of spell a lot of it out for you but not in a way that’s dumb and you down you know it’s it’s you definitely have to pay attention but.
There’s I feel there’s more symbolism there’s more you’re the whole face versus science the whole year you know why is the the devil supposably it you know possessing little girl where’s the shiny just more of a straightforward like a ghost story.
Yeah well go semi quiet yeah mentally deranged like abusive you know.

[27:15] Father whatever husband or whatever.
Show me on that is that The Exorcist is deeper cuz like yeah that religious acts as a,
first yeah The Shining and sisters crazy mother fucker they just sit there and type the same goddamn thing,
and yeah I mean it’s creepy as fuck but it’s different background and all,
like Mike that room 237 or whatever movies that that thing was like that was like Rob.
Was just going on and on about conspiracy theories with it or like it little Easter eggs and it was like holy shit mind
so is a lot of that was done as as cuz I started to watch and I got irritated because I’m like they’re just reaching and a lot of it there too kind of cars in the end when you cut away now there’s only for cars or something,
yo that’s his his meaning of why he fake the moon landing inside.
The Indian face on the coffee cans of Americans,
and in the thing is I think unfortunate The Shining that the missed opportunity is what Stephen King complained about is his book was written as a slow descent into madness.

[28:39] When the shiny comes on you see Jack Nicholson he’s already crazy to begin with he didn’t portray it as well,
I like it. A lot of 5 months away from other people sounds great yeah to it just
it was a nice lower $0.02 so.
That’s what I likes I’ve always gravitated towards the Exorcist just because it’s a brilliant and revisiting it yesterday I was just like.

[29:12] It makes me think I got to read watch it because I’m just like I’m agree to disagree about which one is dumb is better probably but still Iris I respect your opinion and I’m just like it makes me want to read watch The Exorcist in Lake.

[29:26] Pay closer attention maybe it wasn’t until this year that I saw The Shining all the way through from start to finish and now I’ve seen it.
Two or three times like that because I have a lot of free time at my job and there’s free Arthur’s there’s channels to watch that has old movies on it all the time.
But you are absolutely right yeah that,
you know right away you can tell there’s something peeler about him and I’ve never read the book so I think that that’s I need to go back and read the book.
Will thus the Kubrick when I know the Teeny one they made a while back was like an actual face.
All three versions and all three are very individual on their own.
You know I didn’t they just the threads are the same throughout but if they’re just individual you know to their to their own.
And I need to reread that because it was it just broke it down perfectly so yeah but I don’t think I’ve seen,
The Exorcist all the way from start to finish ever because it’s always freaked me out because it’s a slow building it’s this little girls to send into.

[30:50] Basically become in this possessed entity that you know and it’s it it’s really depending on which version you watched the original theatrical version they cut out.

[31:01] A scene which explains why this girl is possessed where’s the director’s cut,
well it’s he didn’t really call of directors they called it the version you’ve never seen they put that back in because he realized years later that the writer was right they needed that scene back in.
It is basically the heart of it is is.

[31:21] I don’t think so where is like how the hell did she get for the heart of the film is you know because the question that father Karras ask is why this little girl.
And father Mariners like it’s not about the little girl it’s about everybody in the house,
he’s possessing her to teach them all that Humanity sucks and that God doesn’t love them because he’s able to possess a little girl and there’s nothing they can do about it,
and I was so when they took that out in the original version it’s like it is a little on-the-nose but it also.
It’s the point home so,
selfie app so that’s the.
I know I’m really looking forward to teaching that so that’s that’s super awesome,
ask about can I go and I’m just like what maybe I could do something outside of that.
You should just do like a lecture series or something at some point like a three-part or something,
absolutely never never considered being a teacher but I might Maybe.

[32:42] Away to finally geek out about it and I’ll cuz I did I told the teacher I said you’re giving me an opportunity to like.
Deep dive on a conversation that I normally don’t get to you know cuz most people talk about her and they’re just might turn away.

[32:59] Before we get to Ben was hoping you’ve seen it so we can talk about it cuz I don’t have anyone to talk to,
have you seen heredity I’ve been putting it off I will I will I just I just watch the quiet but I’m a little behind cuz been busy but a quiet place.
Is Fairview Pacific pie place I have not okay that’s one it as is from a writing Sandpoint.
They always talk about when you’re writing scripts is to show not tell in that movie is perfect example of what to show and not to tell it because there’s things in there that is that the one with the,
the monsters attack of the Hat makes this sound.
I have seen most of it I have a real hard like suspension of disbelief with the like how that would function on a practical.
Level thing. They did a really good job with her.
The thing that and a great example of the show not tell is that they they make Trails of sand and they walk on the sand.
And then they just showed their foot and they’re not making any sound so it’s not going to explain to you why this is why we do it you know so to me that that’s a lesson in screenwriting right there.

[34:15] But now her and her II it is on my list I’ve heard enough about why I don’t know about the ending but I’ve heard it’s pretty fucked up so oh my God.
I really like house The Haunting of Hill House but there were a few people who like brought it offers like yeah it just could have Serenity and it was like.

[34:34] No well it’s good as a good story but it is not.
There’s nothing nothing fuck as fucked up as heredity so far that I’ve I’ve seen when I checked it out now that’s yeah that’s why.
Like a Serbian film I’ve not yet watch just because I’ve heard enough for stories about it but it’s one of those I got to be in the right mood to prepare for,
I have not see I’m not as immersed in the World of Warships anime horror movies so you may see it to be like.
It was intense but I have a lot of the four friends I have that I’ve mentioned that it’s pretty pretty upsetting so so.
It’s pretty upsetting,
it is apparently really mess up your mind that’s High Praise like that it is so upsetting it will Ford 8 awesome that’s it for me that you know the Exorcist was one of those stones that when I saw it.
Probably too yeah I just like totally screwed me up everything about this thing.
It has a horse and you try do you do get desensitized after a while to where you want to see.

[35:47] The things that are going to scare you the other things are going to make you turn on the light as opposed to a normal person who doesn’t watch for you know who gets scared at.

[35:57] Now I mean that says the short films we shall be in a few people like oh my God I got really scared at mr. pointy and I’m just like.

[36:04] Really.

[36:12] That’s all that nut shots mm.
Jackie keep us posted on what you got going on because we love hearing about it love promoting it and lots and lots of last I can if we can we talk to I’m always.
Like a year or two ahead on where things are going so.

[36:30] Absolutely so Nicole tell us a little bit about Midwest medium.
So is my YouTube channel where I put out monthly horoscope forecast videos.
I’ve been practicing as a psychic for the last 6 years now and have recently.
So I’ll do a deep dive we have time right now so okay so I’ve been practicing as a as like a psychic for like the last 6 years and when I first like I’ve been intuitive my whole life and.

[37:15] It’s coming it’s kind of common like waves you know like ads inflows were like I’ve gone through. Are my life where I’m just like or really want to develop the skill I really want to like
get more into it and then I’ve also gone the opposite way over I guess this is all bullshit like I really don’t have this ability but then it always comes back with a vengeance of just like no dummy you really do have this gift I’m one of the most profound moment that I had was I want to see was back in like
2003 or so.

[37:43] Basically was a Super Bowl where Janet Jackson had her wardrobe mishap and I was looking up in Brookings at the time and,
friend of mine he wanted to go down this we want to go out of Sioux Falls to go shopping at the mall because it’s going to eat them all usually dead on Superbowl Sunday so he comes to my house and picks me up
and as soon as I put my hand on the roof of his car my vision completely like went away all I saw was just like white
and swirling snow and I just felt myself spending I just heard people saying oh God oh God oh God and I knew that our car was going to go into the ditch
well then finally when I come to and I honestly have no idea like how how long I kind of blanked out,
all my friends are looking at me like what’s wrong with you I’m like oh oh I’m fine,
just be careful while we’re driving down to Sioux Falls and and they’re just like oh okay whatever so then we’re the roads up by Brookings are fine but as we get closer to Sioux Falls,
the roads got a little worse and so am I scaring you please watch the road and he’s like fixing his hair in the rearview mirror and just like most like the snow had kind of like.
Blue on Black the edge of the road so you kind of had to be careful if you’re going to pass so.

[38:54] She’s fucking with his hair and then finally we end up going into the ditch exactly how I saw it.
Only this time every everybody still saying oh God oh God oh God I’m off all like I got us I like dialing nine-one-one like I’m literally just like on the horn like getting.
You like saw this hash was like this is exactly how I feel and then I call nine-one-one,
Highway Patrol costumes and and he can make sure that we’re okay and
he’s like you know if you would have waited any longer you guys could have died of carbon monoxide poisoning cause your tail light was completely submerged in the snow and we’re just like dick and then I was like maybe that’s why I saw that and so that was like my first profound experience with having visions most people don’t get visions that way but
this is kind of how I experience my gifts so.

[39:54] Lucky so yeah,
that was when I was in my early twenties and I, and like I said I still went through phases here and there where I was like who’s that accept another that then eventually like when I turn 30 I just got this late,
intense desire I just like you need to learn how to be psychic it was just like I was like you need to drop everything and you need to focus on this and like you need to learn this and so I was watching a lot of,
What’s that show Long Island Medium and she has this she had a episode where she was saying like how she has a mentor and I was like that’s exactly what I need I need a mentor and so,
trying to find a psychic Mentor in Sioux Falls is a lot of fucking harder than you can imagine yes there are psychics here in town but not.
None of them are interested in developing individuals,
Lakers there’s nothing on their website that say oh by the way they teach this or oh hey if you want to contact me and we can work together you know none of that and if they do they want to charge you like an arm a leg to do it I feel like I don’t have that kind of budget for it so.

[41:03] I did find one psychic who who sat on her website that she does mentoring as I perfect that’s exactly what I need,
what I go and she was associated with this Facebook page called the sanctuary and that’s where she has her office is out of it’s literally like Parker Jamal at where the Pickle Barrel is like above their so
I can’t I reach out to the sanctuaries Facebook page and I get a response back that’s and there’s like I’m so sorry but my car isn’t has moved on to Kansas City but my name’s Angela Johnson and I can offer your body talk session I would like.
What’s body talk so.

[41:35] I got a body talk session and then Angela said that you know there’s mindscape classes on my what’s mindscape and that’s vent it’s basically like a Layman’s way of learning to develop your intuition they don’t,
directly talk about psychic or anything like that they’re just they just.
The kind of like sugar coat it was saying this is you using your natural intuition but they make its science-based to which is like I am 100% on board at this point but they talk about you know the difference
the different wavelengths of your brain and how you like you know getting to the alpha State how you can be more into more things when you’re in the office States and they talked about various so you know science.

[42:14] Inventors like Einstein and Tesla and like how they use meditation to help them come up with their ideas how Tesla
never had any blueprints everything was out of his mind and he can build things just by going into basically his mental workshop and building them just that way like he would go into his Workshop
in his mind and like creepy invention and then he would just go out into the world and do it never had a blueprint.

[42:41] So it’s so it was kind of like using your mind to its fullest extent and so I
so but using the mindscape principles of kind of how I develop more by intuition and doing my readings and then hooked up with the local psychic who was willing to like practice with me and kind of give me
that basically it’s the feet that I needed to come and get rolling and then a
bodytalk friend wait time at the bodytalk community she’s like have you ever heard of the psychic readings Carmel Joy Baird and
she has a TV show called Mom the medium which is basically like she like Canada’s Theresa Caputo but out of Canada.
And I was like no I’ve never heard of her and she’s like well she’s has this mediumship masterclass,
where she’s only taking on like 10 people but I think if you apply you will get in,
there’s no way like she’s way too famous like she’s like over 30,000 fans on Facebook hundred thousands of people that she deals with an email on a daily basis there’s no way I’ll get into this course so well nothing ventured nothing gained so
I did my first application and I got past the first hurdle and I was like.
Okay that’s fair you know what I have some psychic background like that makes sense on why I would get past round one.
Play in round 2 came and I was like I don’t know if I should do this because you know there was just there there was some things I just didn’t know if I could do it in my friends just like.

[44:09] Just go for it like and I was like so basically I had like a day to the side and then I was like alright fine so I went through the second application process. Past the second hurdle and I was like,
oh God this is getting real hair getting really close now and then the third phase is having an actual at like interview with her
and then she she like I like that you’re from South Dakota I like that you basically you have a job and as like an analyst it’s a very like grounded job and and you seem pretty normal so I’d like to welcome you into this class I was like.
What so I got into this mentorship course so I’ve been publicly out as a psychic since probably,
I don’t know April ish and I didn’t launch my Facebook page until not till July.
And so just like the momentum of like how everything’s has been kind of falling into place is just been.
Mind-blowing to me considering looks like I’ve been doing it privately for so long I really struggling with it because I really do enjoy giving readings and helping people but just like them building up the mediumship part of it is just been really.
Just incredible to me and then also just you know.

[45:20] Like people coming to me like getting the interview on Kelo and you know doing my my my monthly videos and everything and just young really spreading the word so.
And yes I do offer mentoring because it’s something that we really lack here so.
So you have to go up to Canada then to yeah that’s why I’m on the coast of Russia like in the middle 19 hour drive from.
From Sioux Falls up to Edmonton I fly so clip 6 hours so but she does do she offers classes online to have courses her.

[46:07] And so you can do courses with her but I’m working on getting horses here so I will be offering I don’t know the dates yet because,
I have to get that nail down yet but I will be having a psychic development weekend up in Watertown there’s a nice Retreat facility up there they have a therapy horse ranch so I know you’re nice like two and a half days of psychic
development so that’s pretty cool so having a very excitable donkey and a pig who,
may or may not be aggressive when he might have just been really happy to see me though to either it’s hard to determine a pig’s mood when they come running at you
but they can only have a few mode some yeah.
Then I asked if you would have said excitable donkey and some you know man eating chickens I would have said Mexico but oh okay okay.

[47:11] I wish I could go over there but
hey Dad develop into kind of a TV show where my talk interview other local psychics and people in the holistic healing Community direct to the TV show,
I don’t know some of the brand brand new on Blaine Avenue I don’t know I think he’s,
yeah so Dominic helps me a lot with it’s actually a nice collaboration between the what I know for the video and what she knows in her world because I know nothing about that the psychic mediumship so.
It’s I know but I know everything is well not everything I know a lot about the video world so it’s like I can help you make good videos and that was part of the.

[47:57] Looking at some of the psychic videos online it’s all
people like sitting in their kitchen using their iPhone you have to get that unflattering lighting the angle is just nasty
and they’re just really poor sounds on my bullshit I know we can top that immediately right out of.

[48:16] Yeah one of my friends who is also a local psychic he said he saw my videos her first I was like damn she does not fucking around like that looks impressive so
yeah it does it’s very polished thank you thank you so much so
said to me that was just a rough draft so we’re going to only going to get better and they have this new lighting system where basically you can choose
busy can change it to whatever kind of color that you want because,
promise a white while they’re literally just playing up against a white wall but they have these colored lights they kind of bringing so like every month I get to change the color.
The Velvet of the videos so I noticed that and I was like I was like I don’t
I didn’t care for the intensely I kind of wanted it like a little bit more like.
Pastel blue but you get what you get so.
No it was the the flu that was so you know I liked it cuz it looks really good on video but yeah you know obviously she didn’t it wasn’t what she was going.

[49:30] I am well enough you ripping to it’s it’s kind of intimidating.
When they’re like it’s like okay sorry you had to choose whatever it is that you want tell us what you do tell us how you want and it’s just like a little ones so it’s kind of nice also kind of like holy shit like I got to make,
but I have to pick like what am I wearing what am I having on the table do I gets the right go down to bless of things and get some crystals cuz I was everything looks like I want blessed things to be.
Those blasted things are out of liver and they do look for it like a crystal and rock shop out there and they’re super nice people and we’ve known them for years and so I just went to them one day I was like hey would you mind if I.
Dad grabbed a piece of real crystals from your shop and put it on display and kind of promoted to work though yeah whatever you want I’m like Okay cool so is it okay if I take this huge amethyst Crystal
no whatever you want make money from a series of $300 Crystal knows I can’t take it that’s fine like,
that’s awesome what kind of special thing to do with it don’t break it,
took brought it you know pick it up the day before brought it back the next day or so I called her yeah yeah it’s kind of nice to have that kind of freedom but it’s also like I got to think of those things
yeah like what do I want to have like on the table with me I thought I had been primarily using criminals deck of cards because of the butterfly decorations basically oracle cards cuz there’s a difference I just learned cuz I’ve never used any tools and I do my reading I’m strictly just intuition based.

[51:00] A lot of other psychics will use tools like tarot cards oracle cards there’s a difference and you know using ruins and you know other type of like means of ice crying information and so she wants us to know in this master class to really get
find chundos then use those tools cuz your Sunday going to have a client that only wants
a rune reading we only want a tarot reading they don’t want your intuition they just want,
then you’re using your intuition what they want a tool to for them to be able to relate to the reading so that’s been.
An interesting challenge but it’s been fun so.
So the difference between an oracle cards and tarot cards,
Dom’s suit of cards were there you have like the major Arcana the month the minor account he had the one given nights you have the death card that you have that never changes from deck to deck like if you pick up a deck of tarot cards it’s always going to have those same
the same cards in it,
oracle cards is where a person can design a deck of cards just using signs and symbols that they feel the long and their deck of cards and that can change from
every single deck like you’re never going to get the same card in any deck.

[52:20] So I like I have a deck of cards Oracle Deck with me today.

[52:26] This is carmel’s butterfly deck that I brought with me and so it’s basically.
They’re just signs and symbols like there’s this one that says give back there’s no selfless Good Deed helping others is helping you and you just kind of like you just draw four cards from the deck and then you just kind of whatever the question is you just kind of.

[52:49] Do you Freebase off of that there’s ask right here that says time to move,
I’m you’re leaving one busy or life and moving on to another so they wanted like the luck card Lady Luck is on your side plurals of what her coming to you now or is it other Dex these symbols might be represented in a different way,
okay so that’s kind of the difference with an oracle deck versus a Tarot deck so it’s really cool.

[53:16] I’m really glad I brought the visual aids day week so.
A little bit about that and the Midwest medium and.

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I I I can get behind a tradition so yeah because.

[54:08] There’s there’s all sorts of artists but.
There. Yeah did you guys are kind of different in your own thing and it’s just.
I definitely I can admire your your guys’s,
skills because it’s not common never just wanted to be one of those people that just talks about hey let’s get together,
do it you know and it’s that’s why I lot of time yeah on Facebook you know I see people post you know let’s get together make a movie this weekend and then it never have.
It’s like yeah you know gets it down and make it happen you know it’s not going to let you just put in the work and I went nuts.
It’s not a glorious you know I mean.
You know I’m working with some actors and stuff on set that it’s like always exciting all the time it’s like it’s not boring and exciting part is to get to go off talk about it.
You know but the actual working is it sucks it’s long hours and I mean on on the taser that I worked on WE shot until 4 in the morning and had to be back up at 6 to get the sunrise you know so it’s like.

[55:21] Two hours late what whatever motivates you drives you compels you I appreciate that so yeah.

[55:30] Thanks and plugs last time I let.
Sonic offers so sorry what are you going to your shoe when is this one dropping,
Obama still going to plug the two things I put last time cuz it’s still coming up so November 10th is a body lab health and holistic
holistic health fair I will be there all readings from if that’s always at the Best Western Ramkota and is from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. and just come over to my table I think I’m doing readings for $20 for 15 minutes
South Philly study but I’ll do it I’ll be reading by I think I’m going to.

[56:10] It’s just that I do like I’ve basically just be like a psychic reading in it and a mediumship reading if mediumship comes up so I’m doing that all day from
10 to 5 and then on November 16th I’m doing a live Gallery reading out of the
white wall Studio that’s on the east side at the East Side last stop and that’s just $40 to get in and if you’re thinking like an element so expensive well I got to pay my studio people because
they do this for money and so it’s important to pay them so that’s why
I know this is a new concept is an exposure good enough
Kick-Ass how do you pay your doctor
yeah so it’s about time it’s kind of a little bit more expensive if you feel it’s expensive and yeah so that was at 7 p.m. is when we’re going to start
this is for that stuff starts and if you never been to a gallery reading what it is is basically a you would.
You attend the event with the hope that the medium takes you to connect to your loved ones and usually the medium stand up at the front and says like oh this is person contacting me this died of blah blah blah and then.

[57:30] Basically I rely on the audience to say oh that’s my dead loved one
I’m being really insensitive but basically like they say like all that’s my person and then I’m like oh yes it is and then come on up so then I do reading from there I’m doing a little bit differently because we have cameras going so so
your chances of getting to connect with your loved one is a little bit better,
it’s still a lottery system so basically when you arrive or not put over everybody’s name into a big bowl and I’ll just drawn names and kind of go from there versus relying on who’s allowed to Spirit,
talking in my ear right now so just to to to vouch I am a huge.
Mulder in this situation.
And there there are some things that she is able to pull that I’m like there’s absolutely no possible way you could have known that about that person so,
it’s not this vague I’m holding up a stopwatch you know when did set you know the.
It belongs to somebody’s grandfather well you know some of those things are very obvious and call details that are just like.

[58:51] Okay I have no clue how you knew that.
Yeah I mean I can give a little example there was this woman that I was reading for and.
This little girl came through and she’s wearing a hospital gown and she was like 8 but age for your forks I see everything visually inside my head and I was like,
and I know I should never do this but I did it
I did anyways I told you was a child but sometimes if you lose a child at like a very young age they will show a little bit more grown-up and she’s like nope nope never lost a child.
And sound like okay that was stupid I shouldn’t have said that and then I’m like well she’s being very insistent that you know her that you had an experience with her and then I’ll send you all my God,
I know exactly who that is on my
can I go on and she said she grew up having a heart condition and so she had to go to the hospital at to get heart surgery while there’s is one time.

[59:48] I want they were Wheeling her into her room she was sharing a room with another child
and this child was already deceased when they put her in the room together and that has always stuck with her and she was just so scared by seeing this other little girl already deceased
and then the little the little boy in the hospital
suggest years ago so I know so and so then then the little girl Spirit starts,
Cuts in and says I just wanted to let you know that I am so sorry that you had to see me
deceased like that and that I am taking care of all of your animals for you on the other side and then she showed me all of her animals and just would like
perfect detail it was just like I was able to list like if there’s like five or six animals that she had on the other side just like the different like spots on them the different colors of them like I could see all these animal that she was taking care of oh my God that’s the saying Alyssa that this
what is this that she’s like I can’t believe it so just like feel like interactions that like you have with people throughout your life.

[1:00:55] It’s people like they remember those things on the other side and sold and they take care of you on the other side so it was just really phenomenal,
feel like have it experience and it’s like I can not make this like that was like I could never make that up
absolutely not what I went with like I was thinking like this is a child she laughs and turns out it wasn’t it was somebody that she hadn’t just like a one-off interaction with so it was just an incredible experience so.

[1:01:23] Do you want an incredible experience book reading so yeah so.
So that’s the bed Gallery reading sorry for the awesome.
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[1:01:53] We should about the time this is Aaron have the our life episode from Super time coming up on the schedule so.
Yeah be sure to check out that with the the gentleman from Ghost Mine just shows up and I didn’t want to cruise to the whole crew is like,
what’s got a little taken aback I’m just but I think but I got, and everybody is that was the people I talk to her cuz I got you handled it really well so like.
God I was so bogged down that week that yeah it was a long weekend indeed,
but yeah be sure to check out my cop grimoire the dress code we’ve got an episode coming up that’s going to have Shawn cable from ksfy on the dress code what should be really interesting wow let’s see.

[1:02:41] Perlocution pumping out new episodes great great show you know,
there’s not enough time in the day to list all the shows I’ve got going on in different projects But be sure to check them all out at the Sioux Empire. Com that’ll keep you updated on what we’re doing,
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Let’s see we always give a shout out to supercon Wheels give a shout out to live 605 where you can hear a lot of these podcast including the cop term or Thursday nights at 7 p.m. now I know.
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Is it Dinner or Supper in South Dakota?

When you were a child, were you called in for supper or dinner? Even as interest in the term “supper” has faded, it turns out that there is actually a difference between supper and dinner. Of course, if you were called in for supper, you know this difference well, but if you were from a dinner family, it might not be so obvious.

While many would be apt to say that supper is an especially Southern thing, that’s simply not the case. Let’s start with the basics of the big meal to tackle the dinner/supper conundrum.

Dinner does not imply a time of day and simply references the main meal, or the largest meal, of the day. One can eat dinner at any time, and since there is no time implied (afternoon or evening), dinner has become the modern catch-all term for the evening meal. As points out, “the word ‘dinner’ comes from the Vulgar Latin word disjējūnāre, meaning ‘to break one’s fast.’” While this is most closely related to breakfast in English, the meaning of dinner still influences how we use it and it has become the most popular word for the largest meal eaten of the day.

Despite dinner’s catch-all phrasing, supper comes from the specific Old French word souper, which means the evening meal in the English language. Because the time of day is explicitly stated, it is related to the late afternoon or early evening meal. Supper is most often a light meal. One of the most intriguing differences between dinner and supper is the time of day they imply for guests when you are having a gathering.

In some rural parts of the country in the 1800s, dinner actually meant the midday meal (lunchtime) and supper referred to the evening meal of dinner. In fact, I remember being a kid on a trip to Kentucky and hearing lunch referred to as dinner, with the promise of a supper club later. How confusing is that?

So what are the regional divisions of the terms? It’s not necessarily an American South or Midwestern tradition, but instead is a farming families’ trademark. Because the Southern and Midwestern states were heavily agricultural, supper was implicitly the lighter, late evening meal and dinner was the larger, main meal of the day.

According to food historian Helen Zoe Veit in an excellent NPR interview. Dinner was traditionally the noon meal, and the biggest meal was in the early afternoon during the 19th centuries to fuel the farmers, their workers, and their families so that they could finish out their day strong and steady.

With its agricultural history, it’s no surprise where the search term ‘supper’ on Google is most active. Wisconsin, South Dakota, North Dakota, Minnesota, and Iowa take home the cake for the most frequent search results.

Supper in these homes also referred to the soup cooking on the stovetop, often all day long, for a lighter meal before bed. As more American families moved away from farming and agricultural endeavors, the large meal of dinner took the place of suppertime because it was the only meal each day that middle class families were able to share together after working and attending school outside of the home.

Sioux Empire Podcast 127 Halloween 2018

In part one of our Spooktacular Halloween episodes, we sit down with award-winning horror filmmakers Dominic Wieneke and Ari Show with Warwolf productions.  We deep dive the local news of the last few weeks like Chief Keef’s legal trouble in Sioux Falls, the stupidity of South Dakota drug laws, the Florida firm that plans to raise rents across Sioux Falls, The SFPD’s name our bomb squad robot contest, and a school chef adds some bounce to a school’s mystery meats.  This week’s episode is brought to you by our great supporters on Patreon. If you’d like to support the work we do here at the Sioux Empire Podcast Network, visit to find out how. The Sioux Empire Podcast can neither confirm nor deny that kangaroos were harmed in this episode.


Warwolf Productions


Ari Nicole – Midwest Medium



South Dakota’s shitty drug laws.

Chief Keef’s attempt to dismiss charge from marijuana edible denied


Higher rents ahead

In $52 million deal, Florida firm snaps up 18 Sioux Falls apartment complexes


Robocop? New bomb robot arrives in Sioux Falls


School cook who added kangaroo meat to chili loses job

Hippo Meat


Seth’s Bi-Weekly Book Club

The Good Spell Book: Love Charms, Magical Cures, and Other Practical Sorcery
Book by Gillian Kemp


Shameless Plugs

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HUGE patreon thank you to Matthew Paulson!




Live 605


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[0:50] Hello and welcome to another fantastic episode of the Sioux Empire podcast this is the Sioux Empire podcast the quirky but harmless podcast it’s all about Sioux Empire news, music and culture,
I am your host Robert mehling and join me as always is,
show Gunnar I was going for like shotgun and showrunner and I got show Gunner So and I’ve been gone too long I’m clearly not in my name is McLovin Niner.
Seth Glover hey what’s up I’m I’m here I’m on the couch made it.
Set this in the house I guess who else we got in the house it’s our Halloween episodes of course we have are our favorite scary movie scary everything Halloween Consultants are you show.
And Dominic Winky.
Welcome guys we are going to have for doing kind of a two episodes with you guys and where to get it to all the like ridiculously awesome projects that you’re working on cuz you guys are like.
You like.

[1:54] The only people I know her like more prolific than me and I’m running like 9 podcast now so I’m always impressed with what you got going on it’s it’s like oh we’re doing this Plus
went we have a film screening in a film festival in like 3 different states oh yeah,
and and that’s a great way to chase away is the whole like film festivals and.
You guys with your crazy jet-setting lifestyle LOL all over America.

[2:24] But before we dive in all that let’s get to some South Dakota news,
our first update here is from almost 2 weeks ago here but I thought this Baird mentioning if those of you who remember like a year ago when Chief Keef,
although the hip hop artist was in town for a show and apparently what they found was
one freaking edible in his like carry-on bag or something like that and so then they detained him arrested him all that basically he didn’t get to the crumbs at the bottom of the he did not know man.

[2:58] Yeah so is his attorneys tried to get the case dismissed here a few weeks ago it was like his first arraignment or whatever and.
The judge rejected it so we are going to be we can look forward to a South Dakota trial of the century Chief Keef versus the state of South Dakota has an ongoing legal drama because.
That is happening now I just want the news organizations to say Chief Keef
no I want I want his haters to call him Chief queef I don’t hate on him I just want I just legalized marijuana
we are still behind the times and fighting one little edible what kind of an edible.

[3:44] I have no idea I did not go into that much detail in California last year and so I was bored Billboards everywhere for Edibles and I was like that.
Turkey legal weed advertising over out about it now okay cool
it get on it’s kind of like Coca-Cola was like trying to patent a fused,
weed install.
But I’m just like wow that’s that’s that’s where the nation is right now except for South Dakota or as we are.
We’re still still in the.
Illegal here Tire state is the little town from the village and we’re all you know powering in our our little log cabins afraid that the person out in the monster costume in the woods to keep us in line will come get us right,
yeah so yeah that’s why I brought that one up is just to go are we going to suck.
Really really suck and based on what no man Dusty Johnson all these like.

[4:56] Always FrontRunner and stuff like that in a lot of the like GOP people are just like that’s not going to change for South Dakota anytime soon without a voter initiative so get on that South Dakota.

[5:09] You know I had to do was say that the landlocked states are always the last to know it always comes from the coast. Seems like since we’re kind of that deadcenter we’re always,
but dammit then explain Colorado I mean
kind of Minnesota is too. I don’t know it was just because they are so I think it’s just due to the population density of people in the,
sharing of ideas is a little bit more steak,
overruled the Village People out in the country who are just collect changes evil nature oriented and like I think that’s just like that’s there,
state revenue comes from it comes from you know supporting,
their nature reserves and everything and if they lost that then then what I mean there was this whole campaign there was this Lake out there that they wanted to they wanted to do away with this late but this Lake like supported like the the natural water system,
of this entire town and there’s like no you have to save this late like you can’t just you know dump toxic waste into I don’t think that I’m by really high level summarizing but but yeah I mean,
they were very supportive of of there and their natural environments so I don’t know what that.

[6:37] Okay cuz I wasn’t sure if they I don’t think they’ve passed anti-fracking laws there or been able to.
Probably 10-15 years ago so it’s like the lake something out of the lake search the key I know that but anyways back to.

[6:54] Marijuana
so we’d good cash crop really fortunate though that I have reasons to go to Canada now and so,
Winnipeg ain’t that far away huh you like Dominic
I need another appointment to go commune with the spirits up in Canada actually have to go to Toronto.
Yeah we should make more sense over Edmonton.
I don’t know any Dino Toronto I don’t know anything about Edmonton Edmonton is like Minneapolis but it’s more spread out and they actually have like a Mall of America that’s like better than our Mall of America.

[7:43] It’s not going to be the mall of Canada North America Rob,
hour of Mall of America versus other I thought we had a scenario here where you know when you’re up they throw American female or he’s always love that because they,
do all wear blue jeans and then.

[8:05] The big thing is red Solo cups is apparently no one in Europe uses red Solo cups except for Americans so they go to a specialty store and buy Red Solo Cup cops like everywhere all over the,
wherever they’re having a party and all the pictures are people going with
they think Americans are well they’re right
kind of defiance that too so a little less fun you know it supposed to get any cars rating people for,
how do you plant yeah,
so a for deferment snapped up 18 Sioux Falls apartments complex is scattered all over the city and basically it’s,
it’s owner in this article here in The Argus Leader that we went to basically says yeah this is great growth opportunity and oh yeah these guys rents are way under what we think it should be so that’s one of their things that they were going to,
Skyrocket the rents for all the 18 of the complexes that they bought up so they drug courts will drive up,
rents all over the city will you have to generate revenue is so that they can pay Elon Musk to go in there and Boris,
hyperloop’s and that’s how these 18 apartment complexes are going to be connected it’s all connected.

[9:35] They’re going to be like slumlords.

[9:40] But basically Miami slumlords are taking over half the apartments in Sioux Falls but at least they’re being open and honest and true.
It cuz this is totally something that could happen like quietly,
where is be straight up an interview with the Argus Leader is just going that’s why we bought it to make money but the thing is I don’t feel that they’re going to get a lot of.

[10:02] They don’t understand the socioeconomic status of Sioux Falls whatsoever and just make cranking up front doesn’t mean that people are necessarily going to pay it
people will move to cheaper apartment complexes and that might Force the other landlords to maybe possibly lower there around 4 just going to hurt them because they have,
are costs and stuff to go creating this whole mess of the situation until the city finally maybe steps up and then she is about to say like no you guys need to like we need to have a rent standards in the city because you assholes can hear and ruined everything.
I’m sure it already is limited but.
Like learning bass. Whatever you call that living thank you so that that’s going to be a lot like a lot more limited but I think actually like that’s going to,
sort of encourage the other apartment buildings to raise there’s at least site leave still under there at the one but then.
Still Still Still raising it because they can because I mean it’s a possibility I see what you’re saying if people are being able to pay it every year then it’s not worth it because.
He’d rather have a stable income from somebody that somebody that’s not paying you a lot of people out to buy houses also because I mean.

[11:24] This was 13 years ago I was paying 750 for an apartment or I could get a house payment for 700.
Yeah and actually own something so that was kind of nice I think it’s going to do that but it’s also going to drive people out that can’t really afford houses and then the houses are going to.
Become decrepit and so yes I think it’s good it’s a problem they need to fix.

[11:47] Yeah I just like what are you doing about something like cuz it’s obviously can’t pass laws that people can’t buy things you know.
But it’s an issue and I feel like our state’s leadership is woefully inept to,
like answer any of these problems with affordable housing weather at the state level or at the city level.
I mean all they do is just like we will come out of state money yay it’s really has a Barbie like well job well done this will do long-term.
Pretty much that’s a good summation for any South Dakota politics is exactly what will make us happy right now.
Absolutely well that and it would be
well we thought we way overheated the housing market in Miami and in Florida so it looks like tunning secret reference
you’re the one that was saying is like it’s a solid investment because these apartments won’t be underwater in 10 years.

[13:01] So you guys start brainstorming now I have an unfair advantage to start preparing the list here.
Sioux Falls okay I don’t want to I don’t want anybody to overly excited the Sioux Falls bomb squad has a new bomb robot and they are making us for children.
But I feel like the podcast is only like 5 years old so I think we can sneak in there and we can also participate and some suggest some new
names for Sioux Falls is new bomb robot.

[13:38] Missed opportunity I have a good one.
Oh I just thought about it right before we start here’s a picture so you get have an idea of what,
is your parents the bomb,
Jesus fucking Christ is a hundred $50,000 I am in the wrong
I could make that for like 20 what
it was really I don’t think it does. I think that’s part not part of the warranty,
when it blow blow up around it you just replace the chunks of metal that are damaged.
So let’s see so here’s a question about the the little robot when it blows up.
Do they have like all the parts attached so it doesn’t cause shrapnel itself because now like with NASCAR’s when they crash they have like a lot of the parts are Tethered to the actual frame so they Parts don’t go flying.

[14:46] But this robot doesn’t look like that so when it explodes it’s going to just cause more internal though correct
you okay we are literally looking at one photo two guys looking like pretty like themselves
call is actually attached right because I’m guessing there is also a wireless option.
If it’s not into you’re not in robotics like none of us are,
you know we don’t understand what do you know about,
night making sure that things are like the tensile strength of the metal.
A ridiculously long and then it’s low profile for the most part other than like the arm up there.

[15:58] And then you got to remember how it’s going to approach a bomb is that that arm that’s right now pointing straight up is going to be pointed straight out so the whole thing has a Slimmer profile.
Facing the bomb in the idea is that there shouldn’t be any of one around,
is the robots there so you’re not going to do the shrapnel thing because the whole idea is that there’s no one close enough for that to happen unless they got a robot
unless they operate it from 3 foot course which I’m guessing that that is an accessory in order to operate the robot like inside of the office and to like unload it and load it from a truck.
It’s cuz you can see like clearly see where it’s plugged in at,
I can’t remember any lines from short circuit so.
Yeah they can just take the classes and show it to Classic to show two kids and a random Thursday night when it’s slow take it to a bar and go drinking with the robot they again,
in which case I think they should name it better so robot name ideas.

[17:13] Pleasure bot 9000.

[17:17] Roberto Roberto from Futurama.

[17:25] And then let’s eat bomb Enoch bomb face were you the one that made that joke on Twitter that they says don’t take that joke.
The argus911 said about the names of the lake and the first person who says bombing mcbob face gets blocked.
Well they didn’t block me so well… It wasn’t the first one to do it either let’s see another name for the robot I thought would be good with probable cause.

[17:51] Yeah we have probable cause what’s a robot doing that guy’s house a we got a camera.
The Negotiator.
If Steve is a good name for a robot mind that I came up with was a run.
And I feel like that serves as two purposes it tells that it’s it’s a command for the troops to get the hell out of there and then it is no telling run to get in there I like.

[18:29] Tell the most danger because obviously and then the other one.
Hello Bob from Mario somebody else.

[18:45] Yes yes,
why didn’t we think it’s going to be like some parent that’s a really creative and I’m going to tell the kid to submit it cuz that’s how this shit works.

[19:03] That’s the kids were the best ideas or just ask him what the rules were and they just asked me to stop calling
through child to provide this idea I need to speak with your smart ass third grader
I have a great idea it’s it’s for Shark Tank but I need a third grader you just like all they caught was it’s an emergency I need third graders,
bomb has been called off today borrow someone’s child so we could go to Legoland in Kansas City you have to bring a kid,
oh wow yeah that makes gold is an adult we were devastated to her like who do we kids.
We need to go to this way
my name is Sir no I am not from here
he’s got the disease that squirting like.

[20:27] Whatever hook get rid of the kids from experience yeah but real hard-ass for adults.
Call cuz I really want that pizza pizza and then you know.
Tickets prices like the Chloe ball,
it’s really cool you know I know it’s amazing several years ago a friend of mine when he was turning 29 he wanted his birthday party at Chuck E cheese and so we went to Chuck-E-Cheese,
and we actually shut it down like we stayed until like they were like okay guys they were closing,
it’s all talk about it that’s like one of the most epic birthday parties ever it wasn’t like it wasn’t like,
like a 30th or anything like that it was 29 so it wasn’t even you don’t like a milestone birthday,
yeah you know this morning I don’t know birthday slipped that in there alright thank you.
And yeah I I didn’t wake up with any like Grand Revelations or feel wiser or you know like excited about presents right I was just like.

[21:52] How come getting old which is 36 which is.
For the last year I thought for sure I was already 36 so I can test for anterior so I’ve been telling everyone that I’m 36 because I’m actually now
I was 35 for 35 all this year and the next year will be 37.
That’s just too confusing you missed out on 35 be 35 this year you’re 36 last year.
Okay so I was 36 this last year so I can be like totally Reckless and crazy because I’m just some crazy young 35 year-old hitting myself and
become the 80 year old man just but then go back to regular I’ll take my 29 on buttoning me
here’s something to think about it think about it as you get older as you level up so.

[22:55] That’s I’ve read an article where the across the pond they like to say that how many,
ears have you or some shit like that in a level 36 podcaster. So now level 36 podcaster so,
now I have a slightly better understanding the gain is not a volume by the way since we met you so screw you and I know we are the same age,
yeah but hell is the guy was.
Yeah I was I was like 28 and I was all like,
2018 cuz I give up just wasted like of the pop culture references that you were like bring up on basement way and then like there’s no remember you said like you were also quite a bit younger than you actually where we you were closer to your actual age and then
okay you’re getting closer and then now you for the first time I’ve officially heard from you you’re actually age I told you I was 20,
and I drunk or what you might have been you better just been pulling our life but not realizing that we wanted a real answer,
so up where where is the where is the cancers of the left leg or the right leg is like I don’t know what like do you think.

[24:20] I just wanted to say that so.
Now I can see Rob lying about his age.

[24:32] Truth,
which is it sucks cuz I can because of my shity memory I can get gaslighted very easily because I’m just like well that sounds like something I would have said okay I guess you get my car Katherine’s podcast that we do with you guys,
oh yeah I said I was super sarcastic Robbinsdale I was not I couldn’t make it but I told me was very sarcastic asshole
and abandon the craziest of the 3534 and the three,
you know what Jesus moving on
as his address what’s the name of the bomb thing on the actual name adult I don’t think I think that the police just actually decide just like harvesting everyone’s good ideas,
Yoda children’s fingerprint good want to pay a writer to actually come up with a good name for it so what they’re going to do is there going to make it a contest and everyone can stand all their apps with the de police interaction schools
it does absolutely does troops in case the bumper about has to go to your school if you named it you’re going to be real comfortable cuz that’s not a stranger run from the school in a much more orderly fashion with.

[25:56] Fluffy there to save us where to mr. robot mr. robot.

[26:04] No no no no no.
No I don’t know every time I see it on I just getting irritated that guy just irritates me if it’s a real Gucci purse
but I don’t use it for one and two and one and two is both it’s it’s good but it is there some episodes was just like what.

[26:27] What the fuck is going on and it’s the you don’t get an answer that episode but you know,
well yeah it’s it’s it’s a guy can see how you find it frustrating like it over yourself you’re not that special you’re not that cool quit smoking and quit drinking.

[26:46] Yeah that’s probably good advice with the whole mental illness thing he’s got going on that’s spoilers for the first season of.
Hackers no mr. robot 3,
I take you back from getting older by the day I saw where I actually went on a date like that was like my first date movies was half Yorkie,
nice anyways.

[27:19] And what’s his name that I can’t think of right now.
Yeah yeah yeah that one guy yeah good good story for this week is.
Did you guys hear about the school how did this even happen School cook added kangaroo meat to the chili.
At a school cafeteria then served it for like a week and then.
At the end was like haha surprise but we told me I couldn’t introduce kangaroo meat but I did didn’t tell you and where,
okay and apparently it’s because kangaroo meat is a healthier option a cheaper were they in charge of like buying l.
I’m sure there’s something we’re like they do it in Australia and it’s totally fine for like we deer you know,
or is it like there something that like Australia.
I or it’s kind of like.
So it really looks like it happened in Potter Nebraska which I might have family ties to this town.

[28:40] Interesting because my great-grandmother’s maiden name is Potter and they are a massive,
family and I have newspaper clippings where the Potter family tree Union happens in different towns in like the Iowa Nebraska Minnesota South Dakota.

[29:00] Vicinity and so
it’s basically where one family hosts the reunions and then people give gifts to that family this as a thank you for like hosting the reunions and the gifts are just like.

[29:17] I don’t know like a casserole this or some bullshit like that it’s like couches and dressers and armoires and like.
Nice things. This is like three like the late I like I found this newspaper clippings from like the late 1800 into like the early 1900s and like it continues on until like.
I want to see like the 1950s was like the last or the no 70s or some like that but I found like the most recent ones like this has been going on for a generation so I am.
Pretty certain that I have ties to this town.

[29:52] One with the unfortunate kangaroo meat incident we’re not related to that guy,
well that’s something for anything I’m 90% sure I’m related.

[30:08] Call at Toledo real
that’s all right so well I mean kangaroos man why would you die that’s just crazy I don’t know the whole pushing it on time and then.

[30:26] Kevin free sis what was your point man like your the lunch lady like you. Because it says that it comes from a food distributor that must meet Federal firemen’s cell.

[30:40] Yeah it’s it be interesting too hard to hear how they found out slim how does this go under news and crime Argus Leader.
Is it I do like the photo they have now.
Yeah I do like the real Justin kangaroos standards of Australian government for for Ministry
government not USDA like everywhere else is like way better than the USDA first for regulation everywhere but most everywhere.

[31:13] They ever ordered meat in England.

[31:16] Yeah I’ve heard you could have like maggots on it and they don’t care just brush them off in the food,
yeah we talked about that.
I mean if you’re talking about the medical devices.
With meat products the US has a legacy of kind of being more picky than a lot of other countries share simply because of the whole Upton Sinclair the jungle incident in the early 1900s.
Really solidified that is like a solid thing and give the USDA a lot of USDA a lot of teeth as far as meat goes topic.

[32:08] Oh wait.
Actually I think that is give you read the jungle I think that’s is actually the whole point is that like I’m an immigrant falls into the like meat grinder or something like that it’s all about the atom,
processing places in Chicago in like the 1890s 19 hundreds.
Yeah it’s white it’s basically what your list the government to start regulating food was that book.

[32:35] Okay okay so I just want to know though is kangaroo meat,
like a thing in other places where is here it’s not because well I mean there’s stuff in a reason why it’s not and it’s kind of crazy that this guy is trying to catch you get this.
Caught on when it’s just like logistically like stupid reserves here these Buffalo Reserves,
back in like the early nineteen-hundreds hippo like these two guys were hired by the United States of America to make hippopotamus meat.
A thing because hippopotamus meat is like way more delicious then,
beef and the cows were kind of like dying off so that’s why I want to know is is this,
is this just our own personal just like cuz we grew up only having like cows and chickens and pigs is his us just being like you gross kangaroo even though what other places it’s a thing
I’m not saying grows from the BBC is priceless it’s an article about kangaroo meat called.
Eating Skippy why Australia has a problem with kangaroos kangaroos / 1 article.
Prepper a headline that’s I just feel like kangaroos are like the deer of the Midwest.

[34:04] But I know what I think the other problem in Australia video of this if you go to YouTube there’s this video called kangaroo breaks into house and this is It’s like a 30 second video but like.
It’s a dancer this kangaroo like literally looks like they want to like I don’t know,
like Angry Birds in Ohio you can get a 20 pound bag of kangaroo meat for a hundred.

[34:31] It doesn’t really translate cuz he’s like oh God that be creepy.
Man I would be unloading that guy right now.
Second window.

[34:56] Google.

[35:07] He’s trying to fight with it the another mail that he sees in the window.

[35:17] Rubric of creatures that can recognize their own reflection and realize what it is.
So okay so the BBC says that the whole thing with Australia’s eating kangaroo meat is that actually the government would really like them too cuz it’s nutritious and efficient an answer to global warming blah blah blah blah but,
Australians have a very ingrained reluctance to eat them eat up their national emblem.
I like if we figured out the bald eagle meat was the ultimate like efficient meat.
You know everywhere we go the government really pushing that bald eagle meat on us.
Kangaroo meat is a common dish that is often served in bars across the country.
Oh okay your roomie exports are also growing about 10% every year.

[36:03] And they’re also there are there a pest problem that’s that’s the part that they’re having issues with them,
like our dear so it’s basically hey let’s eat them and ship them out,
so kind of is like trying to get people on board with eating hippopotamuses Australia is trying to feed the world it’s rats.

[36:28] Susan sing with the hippopotamuses then there’s just like overrun okay
dangerous yeah that’s what I was thinking we should really cover it in the Panama copper and wire because there’s it’s like a really lengthy article on will and that’s really good hippos all of us if they weren’t trying to be colorful
that was like putting like basically like Wolverine on a fucking like you no display or whatever it was like it was just like the most badass terrifying thing they could think of to put there.
You know I’m not saying disgusting on the kangaroo but I am saying I would be just livid if somebody was like,
I killed she killed this Anaconda down in Florida and there’s such problem there is we need to get all these snakes that are down there,
who will eat my snakes will eat these snakes that would be nasty and I was so tired.

[37:34] Signs they don’t get in the Mississippi or the Missouri I don’t know why I said Mississippi to South Dakota.
Well then we’ll release a species of gorilla that will kill all of us takes like what what are you doing
Oh They’ll freeze when winter comes a Simpsons episode where it’s like monkeys that will
quickie tall there snakes is like that when I get to the monkeys and finally just go problem solved.

[38:17] So that’s that’s all the news I have for you this week do we want to we’re going to segue into.
Seth bi-weekly book club it’s been a little more than bi-weekly but.

[38:31] Music.

[38:58] Bi-weekly book club it’s not about the book it’s about to look and today I’m looking at a book.
Tell us about your book the book is the good spell book it’s got love charms magical cures and other practical sorcery,
it’s been written by Jillian.

[39:23] Gillian Kemp alright cool but it she breaks it down into sections of what you know the different spells are,
based on actual spell book so it’s not like okay cool
I found it you can pick this up at any obscure bookstore in an obscure Islands in a secure card
culturally appropriated Oriental themed knick knack store filled with cursed objects that like.

[40:05] This is true you got me there.
But yes I I came across this spell book so it is a special spell bug to to me so.
But it it’s pretty cool it’s cheaper to sit down into five sections love Health pets.
Well and happiness.
And it’s certainly a book that you can just pick jump to any page and check out the.
The Spells there but then in between she also does give good explanations of.
When it’s a good time to outperform a spell in like as far as like the phase of the moon.
I was just going to ask that goes over that she goes into the history of like Gypsies and Rome Roman Roman Roman yes Romulan,
it’s I don’t know if it’s.

[41:15] Yeah I suppose I don’t know that’s what that’s what they actually called themselves.

[41:20] I mean I called gypsies so that’s what I go away.

[41:27] Yeah I’ve never Hooked on Phonics gypsies are basically romani’s like we call it like we call them gypsies that they’re actually from Romania.
Who will owe in United States or not I thought they were,
they are called the Romani near as we can tell based on the language that they speak amongst themselves and genetic history they are they originated in Northern India and they are.
Yeah they’ve been trapped David doing this nomadic lifestyle for like centuries and so,
Yep they’re more related to like the what were called the Aryan dynasties of Northern India that like conquered it in like,
most a thousand years ago and stuff like that and that’s why their symbol is the wheel and stuff like that cuz that’s actually a symbol that the Aryans brought when they took over Northern India.

[42:21] Yeah it’s a whole thing I’m sure it’s some bookmarks in here stuff I do.
I forget which one tricks
Ono to bind a lover to you is his the first one he has here to spell you need a pack of tarot cards are the major beveled
okay space it was separate out like the like the red cards from the black cards I’m just really high level here it’s simply.

[42:53] Take a hair from your Lover’s head you know I tried to do this in high school once it’s not heard of anything,
is there about like bathing in like gardenia or something like that,
I meant there was some oils yeah there’s some oils Katie could rub your phone with and you can.
Chester components of them on you so they wouldn’t if you’re in frequent contact with them when you feel spell has work return the cars of the pack and burn the hair so easily when.
I guess you initiate the relationship of the second one is to entice love and to have your love returned
she says do you want noise I have an explanation but you’re never going to believe it feel like I wanted to kind of like go through the book from page 1 to the end for a because really I’m interested in like
the wealth steps of a lot more than the Love Stuff I’m good there yeah I’m not trying to find anybody there.
We have bindings on a ring mean oh I mean on her finger.
Find you stepping I bind you that you could not hurt others or hurt yourself.

[44:09] I don’t care if you cry I saw a movie a lot I hate the last part of that just because I hate snakes.

[44:16] It’s hard to watch it’s hard to watch.
But yeah so I I came across this book and I have a fiance who’s kind of into the stuff and,
so I’m getting into it and like I said purchase tarot cards before this before going on a trip and finding that book and so.
Yeah and then my friend actually saw that she had another spell book.
That one was titled like how to get rid of your how to hack ex hex your ex boyfriend or something like that so I didn’t bring it just because of the title but but.
How to see her going to be dealing with any kind of hexes and stuff cuz like whatever happened to them was going to happen to you like 10 times over so don’t even mess with it.
Really yeah I think I’m good on the whole hax’s text a lot of people talk about that.
Yeah it pays off it’s instantly you know but then then you’re peeing and you know janitor’s mop buckets and your you know just being a Bieber out there.
What sold your soul so yeah dude.
Wait Justin Bieber did that yeah I’m like a video for some reason he got his doing before he changed his life and veggies.

[45:41] And had the big strong pick that everybody was impressed with.

[45:46] Wow okay I should I spend my life my world my time on the internet researching the Arcane and the weird well I guess that’s pretty funny there’s up I guess I wasn’t do that likes to rip on Justin Bieber so that’s how they all bi.
I have marked a page for you with a gold cord okay I think.

[46:08] It’s going to take a while but I think.
There’s also have two other things you can do with that later I’m all about letting things just you know take the natural course and just let it flow and yeah so like laughter was the best medicine,
I think that’s why several of my siblings died of tuberculosis.
Okay, super cute closest and laugh at like I was like I was trying to see the connection like I don’t get it.
Sorry it was an old Jack Handy thing is like by Jack Handey and one of them is my parents and we said that laughter was the best medicine.
I guess that’s why several of my siblings died of tuberculosis.

[46:58] Because they didn’t get real medical attention they just were probably told the laugh.
I know I’m sorry I killed it should have said I should just give you a Pity laugh,
and then we could have explained it later that’s what I do anyway for most of us to 90% of it over my head but I.
He gets he actually recorded me laughing at my own jokes and plays Master his jokes and it’s still do it’s very useful that way yeah I mean I don’t fault him but Sinister because it’s people that died like,
2 years ago that are laugh.
What is a Sinister I think I’ve ever thought about that that’s really fucked up like back in like years and years ago.
It and like a lot of Summer facts lots of holy stuff like The Wilhelm scream I know that guy is Super Dad 4 Dead can you get any there is literally a dead man screaming in Star Wars well that’s how they recorded it.
Well at the time it was fake but no no they pushed him off a bridge and they recorded it screen.

[48:22] That that that’s that’s a chilling fast that I never thought.

[48:31] Got it only way to be creepier is if it was like playing off one of those like the wooden sort of hearing that concept Theory without the laugh track. It’s creepy hits,
hidden super high.
Because I really just awkwardly tracks out of shows and then and it’s.
Because they’re all it’s all about timing right away it just becomes really weird,
okay okay I guess night,
so I can say they make a drug to one continue the line yeah I love it though that’s freaking awesome.

[49:30] 300 Halloween P way
Jillian camp for crafting this fine piece of literature so that I can soak up some knowledge that is.
Definitely older than I am and how to spell it.
Well I’m not going to rob I think that life’s going to figure itself out,
that but happy Halloween and you know if you’re going to curse somebody just make sure you mean it.

[50:22] Yeah absolutely.
And they kind of deserve it at least you know if at all possible get your families involved and kind of create a feud there make sure your neighbors and there’s bad blood in the you know ground.

[50:37] You know so if you’re going to do a hex do it right.
Hey folks we’ve had fun today but I want to talk to you a little bit about seriousness of the holiday season I mean I think it’s really important that families come together during this very special time of the year.
The cast of blood magic on each other one on a pentagram Park new or strangers chest with a knife.
I think those are like the American Family Values we can all get behind and yeah I just encourage everyone to take some time and do some blood magic as hell you know I will say I’ve been like forever painted from the,
final two movies of Harry Potter I had it in March some beef like ever.
And since we last seen each other I saw the last two.
Harry Potter movies cheese that starts in the end damn,
damn the whole series is dark and its teaching YouTube like worship death magic no it’s not it’s preparing you for that everyone around you is going to die I’m going to die for you
you’re not going to be able to live up to that but eat people
we’ve been telling you about this real world while you’ve always been in at if you haven’t believed that good luck.

[52:00] We going to cuddling you so that tell you’ll be woefully unprepared for adulthood.
Alright guys where you learn another 4 years of how life sucks.
If you remember any of it in your drunken Haze.

[52:16] Anyway I think this has been since this has been says bi-weekly book club thanks for joining.
Sioux Empire podcast proudly presents this week’s Shameless plugs Sheamus plugs.
Seth do you have any Shameless plugs this week,
I’d like to Shamus T plug with Rob because it’s his birthday it’s his 32nd birthday he doesn’t look a day over 29
but I’ve been saying that since he’s 20 so we we go back about 15 years now and boy,
you know what you get a guy that has all of soundproofing that you could afford,
but that love you man I appreciate that you do this and that that you have had me beat let’s let me be a part of it so thank goodness your mama gave birth to you or else I wouldn’t have a couch sit on right now.

[53:22] This is true I don’t stay here people but I mean just like right now at this moment okay.
Eating eMoney Dominic.
Any Shameless plexus week I do but are we doing one next episode 2 we are but if you got anything happening this week anything going on for Halloween.

[53:54] Really.
No surprisingly after this weekend things slow down everyday is Halloween witch.
Got some Flack for last week remember at Spencer’s.
The phone oh I don’t know we were in make it was looking for this shirt actually that I’m wearing this for cool.

[54:21] And this is something about you can order it online if you need it before Halloween and Aries has no idea he’s just a big fan. I get everyday.
alright it was really kind of like I don’t think he liked the Halloween rest of the year that is not fucking Halloween,
but you made your own happiest people so Shameless by exercising to the next episode of mr. pointy I’m hoping to have released online,
soon so I can get a certain company that will renamed remain nameless to cooperate.

[55:05] Anyway have you read the art of the deal.
Amazon I was going to say till hopefully it’ll be on The Price is Right.

[55:19] God damn it someone said my company’s name.
So hopefully that’ll be online soon and everybody can actually finally do it,
that was awesome oh I guess so if this is released what time is this releasing on Halloween by the way,
is this,
on October 31st I’m going to be Keloland living at 2 p.m. so as,
my dream IBM stuff and do my psychic stuff on
so yes I have my first like TV appearance on Halloween so I’m really excited about that yeah,
readings are you going to like they wanted me to but I’m just.
There’s only six and a half minutes and so am I I don’t know plus like when you do a reading a lot of really personal stuff can come up and so it’s like if you don’t want my personal stuff coming up on the air me it’s best if we just stick to the
questions so that’s spent the part where the show immediately does it cut scene over to her on the air being like.

[56:33] To renew a lot of butt stuff.
Ghetto help this person in your life that you know somebody years ago and they’re just like
Halloween Appaloosa a couple weekends ago and the one thing I forgot was kleenexes at my table and so I might down at please
yeah go get me some kleenexes at Walgreens so he runs and he gets clinics With Envy walk.

[57:05] No there’s no hurry on his part by the time he gets back I have my first client for the day and it was literally just they started like bawling her eyes out and I was like.
Can you like emotional I could have done that I could have pulled that bullshit but I’m not like that so.
Yeah that’s that’s my big thing for Halloween and otherwise I November 10th is the body lab Expo it’s basically another holistic health fair we just had a big holistic health fair at beginning of October of those October 6th this one is another Hollister,
first or China’s close together but I think it’s awesome I’m going to be there doing readings all day and that’s from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. and then November 16th,
at 7 p.m. at the last stop CD shop on the east side on the white wall Studio I am doing a live Gallery reading and the reason I said life is because it’s going to be broadcast over the internet
so but you have to be in studio to get a reading and tickets for that are $40 or do actual physical tickets just be silly pay at the door,
almost I decide to print out tickets which I don’t think I’m going to so so that’s happening on November 16th and then I’m trying to think of anything else after that I don’t think so.
Very cool.

[58:22] I thought of one other one just because but Twisted nightmare haunted house here on the east side of Sioux Falls.
Check it out very cool my Shameless plug this week is going to be for.
The Netflix The Haunting of Hill House which was surprisingly good I didn’t feel I was like that that’s on my list.
Yeah I was I was pleasantly surprised by although I took some Flack for liking it on the interwebs because there’s a certain local personality that on the Facebook’s that doesn’t like it.
So can I get 10% of rotten tomatoes so they’re all I’ve ever been seeing is really positive.

[59:08] Saturday and I won’t yeah this is serious then it’s okay cuz I just wasted another 10 hours of my life.
Do the same thing that I did three eight three years ago which is watch making a murderer binge-watched it knocked it out.

[59:24] That’s why I’ve been I was home sick yesterday with her kind of a migraine thing so I binge-watched the new season of Castlevania which I will also plug was really good.
I’m just really shocked I mean cuz I.
The first season was so frantic with the pacing it was just like a glue or Borax or glue or Borax boric and I was like this is fucking awesome and the second season.
Totally a slow burn totally about character development until the last two episodes then it’s like the first season but the payoff is huge because they spent all this time building these characters so it’s like it’s just as fucking crazy with the action,
except for now you know these elaborate Back stories on everyone fighting and shit like that like stuff makes more sense so,
good season for a cartoon it’s all about like people being blown up with magic and shit.

[1:00:16] Cartoon.

[1:00:23] But they do it like an anime States America it’s an American Studio American Artist they do it in anime style and it it looks really cool.

[1:00:34] So yeah that’s all I have for everyone this week once again if you enjoy what we do here on the Sioux Empire podcast I’d encourage you to,
going to support us on patreon and support all the great podcasts of the Sioux Empire podcast Network,
over at Sioux Falls you can get exclusive behind-the-scenes content,
find out early about new things we’ve got going on all sorts of fun stuff over there and then a huge thank you to a tree,
patreon Patron Matthew Poulsen for supporting us and once again as always we plug supercon which sits armpits are baby we’re going to be coming up on another year Here and Now.

[1:01:15] Yeah only 340 days you have an exterior.

[1:01:21] I do like this one this year the one it’s called The Wrath of Khan like spelled like on say yes,
and then also be sure to check out to this and all of our podcast so we streaming at live 605 your source for local.
Local music and lots of local arts and yeah great for the radio station that got their check it out.
Thank you everyone that we will see you next week happy Halloween.


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Sioux Empire Podcast 126 Thea Miller Ryan from the Game Fish and Parks Outdoor Campus

Things get wild this week as we take a nature trail in search of Thea Miller Ryan from the South Dakota Game Fish and Parks Sioux Falls Outdoor Campus.  The Sioux Empire Podcast crew talks with Thea all about all the great programs at the Sioux Falls Outdoor Campus and about the wonderful new podcast that the South Dakota Game Fish and Parks has launched.  This episode also features a great bonus interview with Thor Bardon about his upcoming event “Their Only Hope: Foster Care Informational” a great event where people can learn about the South Dakota foster care system in a no pressure environment.  This week’s episode is brought to you by Macabre Grimoire, a podcast of paranormal and mystery exploration. Psychic/medium Ari Show, magician Travis Nye, and historian Robert Mehling delve into the dark places where mysteries go unsolved, events go unexplained, and the line between legend and fact becomes obscured. Whether you’re a skeptic, believer or something in between, the Macabre Grimoire will change the way you see the world.  The Sioux Empire Podcast has seen some pretty strange things on a trail cam before.

Thea Miller Ryan from the Game Fish and Parks Outdoor Campus

The Outdoor Campus is a part of South Dakota Game, Fish and Parks. We teach outdoor skills education like hunting, fishing, camping, canoeing, kayaking, rock climbing and more!

South Dakota Game Fish and Parks Podcast

Bonus Interview

Their Only Hope: Foster Care Informational with Thor Bardon

Do you want to know more about the foster care system without the pressure of being asked to be a foster parent? Do you like learning about things without the pressure of being asked to donate or volunteer?

This event will provide an opportunity for Public officials and the general public to better understand who the foster care system benefits and situations that are handled for those children in the system without the pressure of being solicited for donations, political favor, or other “asks” that are typically made with presentations of this nature.

This event is being done to raise awareness of current programs that nonprofits administer that directly benefit the Foster Care system in the State of South Dakota.

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[0:00] Sioux Empire podcast 126 South Dakota Game fish and Parks outdoor campus.
Party runs
from the files of civilization on Mars,
I was hauling pigs on the interstate you were in a red car having a problem with your shirt.

[0:31] Music.

[0:57] Well hello everyone and welcome to another very special episode of the Sioux Empire podcast this is the Sioux Empire podcast the quirky but harmless podcast that’s all about Sioux Empire news, music and culture.
I am your host Robert mehling and join me as always as Natasha to the Estes to the brewery.

[1:18] Insightful.
And also joining us is a Thea Miller Ryan from South Dakota Game fish and Parks outdoor campus.
So Seth is,
we assume losted some like catacombs in Italy or something like that like hunting vampires or who knows what crazy Endeavor he’s up to today so we do not have a Seth’s bi-weekly book club this week we could jump right into talking with the Thea all about,
Bobby outdoor campus so tell us a little bit about.
First off where is it the first contacts for people where is the outdoor campus,
back of its on 49th our park is on 49th Street just east of there.

[2:11] Nice in Sertoma Park you guys are right next to the Butterfly House to write,
is it is there is there a rivalry there a little bit it’s like this is our church who is there first.
People always ask me or you buy the Butterfly House on like no there by us,
just me. Now I get now I get why you’d say that cuz it just like,
new things like yeah the one that we’ve been at forever ever exactly,
so awesome that’s that’s kind of it like in the heart at the heart of Sioux Falls to have unlike her,
the guy is supposed to have grown around a test yeah when we first started building on the property we’re really the South edge of town there is a 57th Street with the gravel road there is a big hell they’re doing over that
the house that they burn down and it caused all that controversy.

[3:17] And they took down the hill and now it’s 57th Street so it’s yeah and of course Sioux Falls goes how far out now 90 something yeah yeah fun ways,
so now we know where it is it to the uninitiated what is the outdoor campus I love them for the laugh cuz we are so many different things,
but our main goal is to teach outdoor skills education so we’re with game fish and parks and that’s where funding comes from.

[3:49] Our funding actually is from the sale of hunting and fishing licenses in South Dakota so we don’t go through this state general fund,
we’re not taxpayer paid so we,
teach outdoor skills education we teach hunting fishing camping canoeing hiking biking kayaking anything you can teach Outdoors or you can do outdoors we try to teach there and just get people.
In the outdoors again awesome what are some of the.

[4:23] What are some of the programs and things you do at the outdoor campus to help with that well we have classes for all ages we call it Pre-K DeGray,
and in the end I’m more gray than Pre-K now is this gray hair right here for the radio of the Mind here I’m showing my gray hair is it’s all called the outdoor campus the outdoor campus,
outdoor front door what what were we saying.
What do Wheaties what are the program sorry got caught on my gray hair.

[5:05] Catch and clean and cook it which is where we teach people families adult how to go outside how to,
catch a fish so that includes everything from being saved to having license to
how to put this equipment on your fishing rod how to hold a fishing rod some people don’t know that at all and that’s okay,
now that you’re sitting here and we’re talking about this the more I’m thinking about the fact this like.

[5:32] Well I know all this but that’s because I came from a family that did it so I was just like all this is like second hat to me but I could totally imagine like if you were if you grew up in Sioux Falls and didn’t
have a family that did that you just have no I mean it there’s nothing intuitive about like which store is he used for what and when then there’s not,
you know like with fishing people don’t know whether the real goes on the bottom or the real goes on the top and you know so we teach him about that,
and then we take them out and teach me how to cast and then we take him to our pond in our pond is really full of fish.
We stock it and it says it’s upon is close by city ordinance.
So nobody can just go back and fish there it has to be for a class for us.
And we do mostly catch-and-release but occasionally when we do these catch it clean and cook it classes,
will teach him how to clean the fish right there and then we take it back to the building and cook it in some of the simplest ways,
and even people who are like and I can eat fish will give it a try because it smells really good.

[6:38] And we’ll have to ask children while I do those classes around in the winter we do ice fishing classes,
so you know your dog shots scares me
what scares you the ice does make a big cracking sound in sometime tonight. Me too I’m not going to lie
having now been out on it with my dad so many times with like him like being like there’s no reason to be scared and to prove it he Slams on the brakes and the pickup and said that he’ll like.
Couple of 316 row I just like totally goofing around on the Isis like it’s fine it’s fine Rob was like you get to us.
Eat you get okay with it you learn the depth of the ice you know,
so go out and roll up we send a few interns or something else,
you know if it’s over 12 inches you’re super save we we don’t fish out there until we’re over 8 but most people start fishing at 3.

[7:52] 3 inches of ice.
Yes we teach those fishing classes year-round rasa doing hunting ones this year we started this whole entire series of hunting classes for adults,
and we’re kind of taking them on one by one,
so instead of having a whole class for everybody sits in classroom and you learn something and then you go out and you maybe do something or maybe we’ll go to a shooting range.
It’s a one-on-one deal so like some of my staff members are taking adults and some kids.
Out and giving him the whole experience so that’s pretty cool yeah we provide all the guns and everything and we have this new license in South Dakota call the apprentice license also if you’ve never.
Hunted before you can get this one time it’s a cheap license and you’re guaranteed to get it and you get that and you can go out with someone who has experience so it’s kind of fun.

[8:50] Mentorship kind of deal what is aimed at and for example one of my staff members Derek he has taken he think he’s up to 17 right now,
individual people and taught them how to hunt so first they met at a gun range and,
no they went over the guns and safety and shooting in the University scared of the report of armor
that’s a very comprehensive beginning to end getting them from point A to point Z and everything in between everything in between and it’s one-on-one yeah and then they meet another day after the people are comfortable with the guns,
and you know the safety and they know the regulations they meet and we have some land owners who have said please come.
They love to help new people learn how to hunt and so they go down there and they shoot a doe and.
Derek teaches them how to clean it and you know they’ll either bring it back or processing or the process that themselves.

[9:50] That is really cool I I did not know the program was like that exhaust if it’s just been in the past we’re heading toward and many other states right now are doing the same thing,
and they’re headed toward,
adult programming or family programming sure so the adult goes along and that’s mainly because we we might have missed some people,
you know we’re missing Millennials in you look at the list of people who hunt and fish in the nation you can see a dramatic drip drip drop when you hit the millennials,
and and so we’re trying to hit them now and we’re trying different ways you know millennials.

[10:34] What times are locavores you ever talk to locavores before yeah so they want to know where their food comes from and you know they want to go out in the field and they want to have the experience,
of hunting and they want to shoot it and know where that food came from.
I know that it wasn’t from a farmer it wasn’t from a grocery store for her where people think food come from you and so they then they clean it and they know where the meat then they haul it back to their house
and they cook it so you go field to plate that’s really cool let’s see.

[11:17] So that’s that’s some of the you know like that that’s a lot of that sounds like it’s like off site or whatever what kind of D do specific things.
And I haven’t been to the outdoor campus yet I need to get out there oh my God she got to come out yeah.
What’s some of the like on-site things that you have going on around so we have classes for starting at Age 3.
Just fun things for preschoolers then we go ages 5 to 7 and then 8 to 12 year olds and then families so you can do classes like coming up October 20th,
we have our Halloween hike it’s an annual hike that we have,
people come in costume and they’d go to various stations around DART Rail System,
it’s a non candy hike people I was like where’s the candy we don’t do candy we just do fun but they come in and do different activities and learn about animals and.

[12:19] Wildlife in this year’s theme is Sophie’s and groupies.
I know that sounds weird for a Halloween hike but what do you call it like a group of toads is called a knot of toad.
So where people are going to learn those kind of things and our staff is all dressed up as a parliament of owls,
nice so we’re wearing judges wigs and I’ll masks and like judge robe.
So we have a lot of special events during the year to and plus we have amazing walking trails.
And that’s why I want you to come out and see if that’s really the coolest part.
Of the outdoor campus we sit in the Hundred Acres we have 2 miles of walking trails and they’re all short.
So you know you can walk all 2 miles by walking all three Trails or you can take a short walk and just go see some wildlife in the pond.

[13:19] That’s really cool yeah I saw the website something about.

[13:25] Did you have a duck webcam or something like that we have had a trail cam for quite a few years and it’s broke him in his so popular we try to put it up on Tuesdays,
every weekend so we call it trail cam Tuesday and we have seen so many animals on their over the years we’ve been doing it for years now.
You know there’s always ducks and geese but there’s dear there’s Fox there’s we star river otters in the last 2 years which is super cool.

[13:55] There’s mink there’s possums there skunks there’s a kazillion raccoons please take them away
but we can have bad luck with our trail cam,
so over the years I bet we’re up to like number 10 by now yeah they get stolen or or this time we had that flood in the park in the trail cam got flooded in.
So I guess I just happened to put on cuz I was like it’s Tuesday there’s no pictures there’s no pictures text me and where are the pictures.
And notes so I had to say I’m really sorry the Ducks had fun during the flood but.
Artrell Town got flooded in that day a lady walked in with a new trail cam and donated it to us she went to Shields and bought a splint.
Nice I know we have we have great people.

[15:00] Trail cam where’s the trail to come Tuesday yeah if I get him up late people are mad at me I got some weird stuff on there too,
you know people walking through a guy with a machete that was fun I got
one of a kind of like half of a guy’s face looking into the cam it was super creepy I’ve had people walking their dogs I had a a policeman on a motorcycle one time and
you can see that I don’t know what the policeman was doing he was probably looking for something but just all kinds of
weird things happen and Parks.
So you got he got the fishing you got the hunting you guys are.

[15:57] You’re dabbling a little bit and podcasting recently bi thanks to you we are we have a new game fish and Parks podcast
and for a while I think we’re up to episode 4 now we don’t have a whole bunch yet it didn’t have a name and now Chris I saw him this week,
Chris Hall from Meijer. Office he is the guy that really is
is in charge of it for game fishing Park and he told me it has a name and he told me and I cannot remember it’s something like game fish and Parks.

[16:31] Podcast in something ridiculous and Parks you’ll be able to find it on all of the usual channels Broadcasting.

[16:44] That’s cool it finally finally has a name name is basically the name we,
podcast and fun to make sense truth-in-advertising I mean that’s what it is so he’s he’s like,
you’ve really creative guy in.
Some of the things that he’s done on the podcast have been really interesting absolutely Blown Away by first the.
The one with the.
The women who were conservation officers,
it was a really cool interview expected.
Yeah these women are kicking but they are out the big guys,
tiny lady that crap martial arts.
I really enjoyed the and I bet Natasha would enjoy this one the talk with the.

[18:01] The guy from the Buffalo Roundup at the Buffalo Roundup you got a booth that everything this year
massage chair the sunlight husbands are and we just kind of hung out there and let me we were in the way back.

[18:19] The second row from the way bag or away from the thing and.
And I have all this other stuff that I want to bring them course is just a bunch of like not finished projects or like what let’s bring this stuff again.
Two things happened but it was still good cuz then it’s like well now at least.

[18:43] My name is somewhat recognizable when I want to try to go next year with her sister I’m done project,
there you go,
please give massage in the snow please let us know I love the Buffalo Roundup I’ve worked at a few time,
when I was younger I’ve been working for game fish and parks for.
24s years 25 maybe and when I was younger it’s on like I’m an old lady and.
I guess I haven’t talked about gray hair.
But anyway what I was younger they did have us go out and work the Roundup and so we help our cars you know at 2 in the morning when the Roundup happen but the coolest part was we got to help down in the shoe.
And when those Buffalo come through it there is no feeling like that left that’s that authentic.
You just can’t imagine anything more real.

[19:47] That you know there’s always say there’s no place left to explore there’s no place you know you don’t discover new things anymore there’s no.
Christopher Columbus’s or or you know.

[20:01] Any of the Explorers left there’s no reason to do that anymore but if you want something authentic to feel a giant herd of buffalo Thunder Bayou.

[20:13] Is is the most real thing
Amazing adult will put up a fit after the fact I had no idea that it was such a big event that was so like well-attended like an art fair kind of like I had no idea.
They did that there I just figured it was like you know like a few people in a line watching or something like that and then between the interview and then to the Tasha stories I was like wow this is this like a bucket list item for me know for sure.

[20:49] I can’t remember how long I’ve I haven’t gone but just last year I actually got to.
Watch the the round up my husband I went out there and then this year we had a booth but.
My dad is in the the 7th Calvary drum and bugle Corps cool so for I don’t remember how many years so one year I went out in and watch that video with my mom and that was fun but my.
My cousin to those like that. Chainsaw art stuff if you would working stuff out there and he’s had a booth out there for.

[21:24] How long time too so it’s like she becomes a Sioux Falls I’ve been looking for a chainsaw artist for one of our events.

[21:34] Maybe I could grab some of his stuff and bring it out here as an excuse to go back home.
You’re from the hell yeah awesome.
Well the Buffalo Roundup is it was my on my bucket list and it is one of the most fulfilling one’s ever it is so amazing.

[21:57] To feel the ground shake underneath your feet and wow yeah.

[22:02] That’s the kind of thing we want people to do at the outdoor campus you want to you want to.

[22:08] You know just try kayaking for the first time and realize the buoyancy of the water and the view how it changes your used to looking at the lake from the shore and you get out on the lake and you look back at the shore.
It’s a whole new experience, so it is it’s really Dynamic it’s beautiful
you feel connected to the to the Earth you feel connected to people who lived here before you you feel connected to your ancestors
at least that’s how I feel maybe I’m a little mushy gushy about it but I love those kind of experiences that you just call,
wow this is there still something left like that Selene that’s really cool let’s see.

[22:56] Trying to think of I know we’ve got just on the game Fish and Parks front and got.

[23:03] Pheasant season coming up here opener for pheasant season is October 20th.
And the weekend before that is resident opener so this week,
I’m in a conference all week I can’t remember what the date is,
all right all right around the the actual like full opening okay.

[23:36] The weekend after that’s like the main openers the big of it cuz that’s when the weather is a little town of Wessington,
just gets just absolutely crazy with events and also took all the time there’s like people there and out of state license place is like The Outsiders our little village.
Yeah have you ever worked I’ve been out to the airport during pheasant season
I’ve seen it like I did like pick someone up at the airport unit time
and the couple days before the season that
convention visitors bureau Sioux Falls Convention visitors bureau goes out there and greets people and now they have other businesses that have booths as well and the people come down off the airplane if they’ve been coming back year after year they’re like
we’re so glad to feed as we give them mugs every year.

[24:29] And they just love those so there’s some guys that have huge collections of our pheasant mugs and you know all these businesses have booths and you can buy your license right there you can you book a hotel room right there,
he don’t have one we don’t recommend that you don’t get one at a time right right,
you can buy things for your dog’s people have some pheasant art there’s flower shops things like that the setup that say,
here send your wife a bouquet while you’re away hunting you know smart people I know but it’s really cool cuz
are there so many dogs barking and dogs coming in and crates and there’s so many guns it’s so weird to see that many guns in an airport yeah yeah it’s quite an experience.

[25:20] Yeah but but the opener is always always not tonight in Wessington does a.

[25:25] Pheasant races every year for the good the only look at the bar kind of like a chicken wire like these two shoots on a
semi trailer what are you yeah it’ll be like kids that have raised as a lot of us in that area would like I have lots of other memories of raising pheasants and then releasing them during the time of year it’s stuff like that and.

[25:48] Yeah it does it’s fun to watch you.
Usually usually they’re like teens or like preteens share up age get their pheasant to go through the every once in awhile one of them like it’s the end of the cage until I close it right.

[26:07] There goes you know if there goes our winner by the way how come you won’t be wearing the Medal of Honor today but he’ll but he gets the his kid gets the honor yeah.
We should do something like that with turkeys and Fort Pierre when I was growing up turkey races.
Always meant turkey races like you described on the semi and and the street dance she was always fun those were the days.

[26:31] Yep Wessington doesn’t bake.
The CIA is the citizen action but they look but they love the acronym cuz it with their hats and shirts and everything say CIA on them.
They yeah they do a fundraiser for pheasants for Lexington which is how they help subsidize and like raise pheasants in the community like like.
Their pheasant banquet takes place in the gym and they’ll do like a big silent auction and like a big roast dinner and stuff like that and they’ll get like.
You don’t like the town is only 200 people in milk at like 500 people in the gym for for that event is a lot of money too.
I think it’s some really really amazing silent auction prices too cuz it got the money from last year to invest back into it so some some years the prices get pretty crazy like an ATV or something like that oh my gosh.
And in a bank would have only 500 people you would have pretty good shot at that you might have to go over there.
It’s always like it’s that Friday night before the opener right up until 5 cuz then it starts at 6 so it looks like I have no way of making it there in time but it’s like.
But it is a super fun event so that’s that’s a Something game fish and Parks e that like I remember growing up with and so I remember my first.

[27:55] My youth license tag when I was younger and.

[28:01] That’s what I fell in love with the the lever action like 3030 like Henry garwyn are buying the first one I was with was it was a Winchester and fell in love with that gun and now that gun is like on my bucket list that I have to own one of us at some point
wow you’re a good little good little rifle they are they are yeah everybody kind of has their got in the
you know they grew up with her that was their grandpa’s or something like that and then you you buy a new one just to say this is my gun and then we’re going to head down now but yeah I still have my 20 my grandpa’s 20 gauge.
Yeah yeah yeah I got my.

[28:41] Got my grandpa’s 22 get that good cuz that’s what I was using before was a little cheap Italian one that just
was chewed up the blast off like oh okay,
oh that’s not good
no that’s that’s the best part of pheasant season don’t you think is the memories thinking about all the time my mom would cook and the hunters and come back in and they be hungry and you know drink beer and.
Talk about their day in.
It was it was an amazing time extended family visits and stuff like that always fun and like to these people you never get to see otherwise then like they come back for Fest in the season and yeah it is we have a hashtag in,
game fish and parks that we always ask people to use hashtag my ASD tradition,
and you know if you have some photos from previous hunts or this year’s hunt we would love it if people would put them up and just use that hashtag on any of the social medias.
We watch for those and we’ll post them on our site or no if we really like them will call you up and see if we can use them in a in a post that we do or something like that.

[30:00] That’s really cool yeah it’s all about tradition.

[30:06] So you’re involved in the podcast in that you do the you do an interview usually at the end of this year they are so Co. Us.
You don’t think one but like a big interview and then you’ll do a shorter one that’s kind of an update about what’s going on at the outdoor campus what inspired you guys to get involved with the medium light podcasting.

[30:28] Oh you know probably probably people like you seriously you know Chris Chris Holland here he is really into all kinds of media and.
And has worked he work for tourism in the past and he’s always kept game fish and Parks updated on every kind of media and social media that kind of thing,
he’s also done some radio and so it falls right into his wheelhouse,
and I don’t know why maybe I just like to hear myself talk cuz I’m sure but I like to do that kind of stuff to you.

[31:08] You’re no stranger to this or talk into a microphone anyway I do it once a week.
And usually I bring a guest so I don’t get to do much talking depends on who the guest is but.
Yeah I love it and so you know we listen to shows like yours and.
Lots of other ones I have lots of favorite podcasts I’m always listening to but we had people requested to you know they want to know what’s happening.
And they like right at the end of our podcast we do don’t forget deer season starts here or,
don’t forget to apply for turkey spring turkey or whatever we talk to you about the latest things that are happening in game fish and Parks so it’s a good tool for us to use that way too.

[31:56] We love having people tell us stories that’s what I try to do with my little 5 or 6 minutes at the end I try to bring in somebody to tell me a story.
I had a guy who was who was a Boy Scout leader and his kids got lost and and they hate they ended up spending the night outside but he knew they’d be okay cuz he trained him well and it was just a fun story it was a good way to talk about.
Things can happen when you’re out in the field and this week I’m going to be interviewing a lady who’s been hunting her whole life.
She does big game hunting and Fishes up in Canada.
You know it’s not there’s not always a ton of women who can claim that amount of hunting and fishing so I’m excited to talk to her.

[32:45] Where’s time we just try to hit on the kind of people that.
That everybody enjoys and like hearing their stories and I want the real story I want people to.
Be able to hear the background in the memories and stuff like that yeah.

[33:05] And yeah and then there’s some great stories to tell like like I said I was really.
It’s like I really like that first interview with the the ladies that wear the conservation officers but I really liked the.
The guy that does the Buffalo Roundup or is like one of the heads of it because that was it was a lot of like it reminded me a lot of like the stories from when I was a kid or just memories from when I was a kid of.
The where we would be rounding up cattle and stuff like that how you getting around them and all that stuff.

[33:39] Yeah that I just found that a lot about that interview really fascinating I ended up it’s one where I was like I added it and I had to go back and just listen to it to him like enjoy the interview and pick up on the thesaurus and stuff it was.
I really like that one that’s what I’m saying going on about.
But yeah I like that too that’s really fun I love the one about the artist The Outdoor artist cuz I collect art I just love art.
And I know that you guys Josh buys and Adam Oswald they’re really known in the National Art world world for their wildlife paintings and Adam to for his.
Golf Course painting and it’s just it’s just fun to hear their processes and their thoughts and how they work together and.

[34:27] Very cool anything else you want to say about the the outdoor campus or the podcast,
well listen to a podcast I could say that.
Let’s see well outdoor campus wise you know I just hope that people will,
come out and visit us if you haven’t been there we’ve been there for 22 years so it’s time time to come out yeah and and see us and take a walk on a trail and just have have some fun,
really a beautiful place and it’s right in the middle of Sioux Falls you can’t go wrong,
even if you’re like I don’t care about bird you might come out there and see a great blue heron that remind you of a dinosaur there so prehistoric-looking.

[35:20] So if you like dinosaurs maybe like great blue heron.

[35:24] Music.

[35:38] And welcome to the Sioux Empire podcast this is Robert mehling and I am doing any interview here with Thor Bardon who is here to tell us all about,
presentation you’re involved in called their only hope foster care informational that’s coming up on October 20th.
Thor tell us a little bit about that it’s so yes you said October 20th between 1 and 4 p.m. I’m doing a free informational event.
I said called Thor sorry it’s not called me it’s called it’s called their only huh Beauty Ages were ever going to be home,
Alpha security formational and,
what this event is is a chance for the public to come in in a format where they’re not going to be hit up for money they’re not going to be hit up for favors or pressured to volunteer or become foster care parents just to come in,
and learn more about the foster care system and what local area nonprofits are doing help the system at the moment as well.

[36:39] In this everybody will have some free giveaways that we have when they come in it’ll be important to the presentation.
And we’ll learn no directly from these nonprofits you know what they do how they operate,
you know where it where they feel their piece of the puzzle is to help children who come from less fortunate circumstances,
we also have a non-profit talking about how they help families stay out of the foster care system as well which is certainly important piece.
And then after the nonprofit’s presents I’m doing a case study.
And this case study is a child’s life from birth to where they are now and it covers you don’t before during and after,
their insurance in the South Dakota foster care system.

[37:28] Interesting so what you know some people may be familiar with your background some might not be what gets what’s particular interested you in this and getting involved in this activity,
well you know what I was when I was younger you know I live with my mom and dad you know that stepdad stepdad came into the picture after Mom and Dad and work out and,
eventually you know there was there was a lot of things going on and so my family reached a point where they weren’t able to take care of me anymore.
And you don’t as unfortunate as that was you know in my teens I actually lived in South Dakota foster care system.
And if it was really an interesting experience and and I learned a lot but there’s a lot of things that people don’t know you know those being that,
when those kids are moving from place to place they don’t really have luggage bags or boxes or anything like that and it’s very.

[38:22] And so most of the time if you got to have two garbage bag.
Then there you go hear you’re moving in garbage bag and just imagine me all your clothes all of your photo albums you don’t maybe you have something special you know with you like a,
a stuffed animal that you have for me Original House something about everything that you own is in a garbage bag and you’re moving for the place the place was strangers that you don’t really know.
And you know there’s a lot of there’s a lot of emotions that go with it you know like.
How come my family wasn’t able to take care of me and how come you know I’m not wanted like these are the kids that I went to a to school with and you know what what what makes me so special that I don’t get this wonderful life,
you know that you see on television and stuff like that so.

[39:07] Yeah so a very very personal close-to-home experience yeah that the luggage thing is not something that would have ever crossed my mind but it’s like oh that’s totally guy.
To be a practical thing to have yeah and you know what I mean if you think about that and I’m not trying to pull her two strings hear anything it’s just as it’s a matter of fact situations but imagine being that kid you know you’re even 11 12 years old okay and.
Your your hand is a couple garbage bag stay here put your stuff in it and do you think we’ll what do you normally use garbage right for like we use drivers rate for.

[39:40] Garbage garbage okay so now all of your stuff is in a garbage bag.
I want to combine that with your family couldn’t take care of you and combine it with you know that.
You see people who move their stuff around and garbage bags that usually the homeless population or like that right and so now you have this feeling that well if my stuff is garbage maybe I’m garbage.
You don’t like I can tell you that most foster care kids who ever move their stuff have this feeling at some point I went through it for sure.
You know when the MS just one aspect of it you know I mean there’s a lot of great things that come out of the foster care system you know how they live on your own because you know I mean what does it look like when the government raises a child they have to learn,
you know how to cook for themselves after one one paying rent is have to learn how to apply for welfare if they need it they hit you in a lot of different things that will Mom and Dad aren’t necessarily around to do that so it’s an important system absolutely.

[40:38] What what was the Catalyst for this this.
This event this I hadn’t heard of something quite like this bring together all these different non-profit organizations and stuff like that what,
was there a catalyst for torturing event not really it’s something that I’ve always kind of wanted to do I recently ran for office which you know it is quite an accomplishment for myself I didn’t do too well with us,
not a thing I mean you got to start somewhere that alright you did better than what I ran in Minnesota,
what’s a what what I had actually done as I said well only know if you wanted to do something to help benefit the Foster your system you know help kids who are currently and situations you know this isn’t a thing of the past like,
their just last year or the year before over 687000 Shield written okay so under the age of 18.
Were served by the foster care system Nationwide.

[41:33] Okay and this usually means you don’t Crisis Care intervention that you know Mom and Dad or pick up for DUIs or you know there’s domestic abuse or there say you know hopefully addiction which is a huge driver right now.
You know it’s it’s something that I wanted to get back into and hopefully help those kids that are in now because the Foster system that I went through,
even though it was just 12 years ago for me that I aged out of the system.
It’s it’s still active it still relevant and it’s a little bit different now too and so I want to I want these kids to have.
Other people understand that’s not like what we see in the movies this is an actual life that people are living in the moment.

[42:17] Very good what do you think are some of the the misconceptions of someone who’s never been involved in the.
In the foster care system but they might like encounter or be surprised by.

[42:33] You don’t South akurate South Dakota’s foster care system isn’t.
Is what you see on television is the it’s not a whole bunch of you don’t miss grandchildren you know that decided to run away from home one too many times it’s
it’s not always a case you know where the kids are orphans it’s not always the case where you know the the parents you know where severely abusing them those cases do happen still.

[43:03] But you know a lot of times you know what special in South Dakota you know there’s a very large Native American population that’s in the system for children you know different things go into that you don’t there’s,
I guess we’re misconceptions saves a lot of psychology things that go into it for the children as well.
It’s not just moving from Foster Care home to foster care home there’s also
government paid psychologist that help these children process their emotions and what they go through there’s nonprofits out there providing small things you know like here’s you know an introduction to a religion,
that you show interest in to here’s where you can go here’s here’s a food box this week we noticed,
you know what a family needed this help in order to keep their children out of the system nonprofits a lot of times can do the rehab counseling,
and you know to help keep these families out of the system as well and,
I guess what kind of delineate a little bit from it but it’s all very related in that.
If things go really bad the foster care system is needed and it’s not always just these delinquent children up seen on TV.

[44:15] What can people expect to if they go to the the event as far as like if you know how long it’s going to be do you know.
Ikea can’t give us an idea I’d like to run down to like who’s going to be there absolutely so coming to this event.
On Saturday is going to be for nonprofits presenting we have.

[44:38] Casa which is the children’s Advocates group they basically represent children.
And the court system set with the children don’t have to face their abusers and be put up on stands and he don’t go through that trauma.
You know that they would have before we have Lutheran Social Services and Volunteers of America at Lutheran Social Services has a very heavy Focus right now on benefit in the foster care system by Volunteers of America does a lot of assistance,
with those with special needs and they also have a independent living transition type program where,
as your aging out you need to learn this is what it means to live an apartment that’s what it means to pay bills we also have coming children’s in.

[45:24] And or Children’s Home Society I don’t remember which facet that is but I do know that they are going to be providing a presentation of how they help and.
You know what sparked Crisis Care situations you don’t domestic abuse they have a really strong program with that and then we also have safe families which is a program of Bethany Christian Services and they’re going to be.
Presenting how they help family stay out of the system you know what what kind of you know things can we introduce him to the family to help them,
become healthy thriving units sure the whole event is it very pretty I’m very happy to see sponsored by The Ransom Church.
With that being said you know what you hear Bethany Christian Services Ransom church Lutheran Social Services this is not a religious event everybody as well, it doesn’t matter,
which Walk of Life you come from who you believe in who you don’t you know this is solely about the foster care system,
it just so happens that a lot of Ministries actually give into it and so that’s why we hear those names it’s who shows up,
exactly it’s a it’s you know any other students who’s there in Indiana why I really.

[46:29] As far as expectations for timelines its from 1 to 4 p.m. we’re talking 3 hours ass after lunch before dinner it’s an afternoon activity and then my case study you know I’ll be presenting
no fair warning to those who it is going to be emotional you know my goal and write in the case study is to have people feel,
you know that sadness that that’s sense of hopelessness but also feel the joy and a happiness that comes from being successful person after going through the experiences that they did
and you know I like I said I have a few things that are given out to you know as as hard Goods that people be able to take with them just that way they can remember their experience and
you know they haven’t done that in a safe environment
as far as topics that we cover we talked about the abuse and neglect of the case study 1 through there was a point where the case study was suicidal at one point
and we talked about the emotions that we’re going through there we talk about their first kiss which is really exciting and when he doesn’t remember their first kiss and give everybody a chance to go off and you don’t really hit those
hard topics without you don’t have him to react to it you don’t do it in a safe environment very cool.
Once again he said it’s at 1 p.m. on Saturday October 20th goes till 4 p.m.

[47:54] Yes it’ll go to 4 p.m. at the latest okay and yeah it’s I believe it’s free if they do ask that you RSVP a register via everbrite or Eventbrite a link will be included in the show notes for that.

[48:09] Anything else you want to tell those blisters,
all know there will also be Refreshments afterwards so you don’t water ice tea and there’s there’s about an hour to where you’ll get to talk to nonprofits as well and,
hey if there’s anything that you wanted to talk to me about after leave that you’re certainly able to adjust I want everybody to get home,
have a chance to come learn that’s it no solicitations no ask just show up as you are there’s no.
You know that a tire preference or anything like that and the seats are pretty comfortable too so if anything if you looking for relaxing place to go it’s the belvis theater if you’ve ever been in it and it’s it’s going to be a good.

[48:46] Very good thank you for coming to her and thank you for what you’re doing and thanks for having me.

[48:52] Music.

[49:06] The Sioux Empire podcast proudly presents this week’s Shameless plugs this is the Shameless plug portion of the show where you can get on your soapbox and you can promote,
the upper campus at garage I mean anything you want to promote this is the point to show where you can name drop and do all that stuff you like a new show on Netflix they really like
oh whatever you want to talk plug go ahead and just do that now
cool well I’m going to need your help with plugging the podcast because I can’t remember all the locations that people can find it I know where on iTunes SoundCloud only the other one,
anymore because there’s so many of them a lot of the shows they just say or wherever you listen to podcasts or your favorite podcatcher app because if it got your RSS feed then they can technically.

[50:04] Listen to you on anything and even add their apps when they can just add You by having that address so,
cool will come and listen to us because we have lots of really fun stuff coming up
if you’re an outdoors person or even if you only halfway like the outdoors are podcast is pretty fun to listen to because we have such a wide variety of,
of things that we have on there I’m going to have a bad person coming up to awesome yeah so we’ll talk about that then that’s a good,
bats eat bugs they don’t eat people I’m a big fat Fan and Batman fan by the outdoor campus we are open,
until November 1st or open 7 days a week after that we’re open 6 days a week so we’re close on Sundays,
after November 1st the building is open Monday through Friday 8 to 5 Saturday 10 to 4 and Sunday 1 to 4.

[51:02] But our park and our trails are open 7 days a week all year round.
If we have snow the city comes in and the City Sioux Falls another plug for them they’re great partners with us.
They come in and they groom the trails so you can go cross country skiing out there there’s no cost for that.
Funtime cross-country skiing is great especially out there.
So pretty can see a lot of deer and fox and all kinds of Critters.
I’m surprised cuz like I said it’s like in the heart of Sioux Falls.
I’m surprised those things can be so elusive how many different animals we see out there it’s really cool and people have no idea what all in town there are,
possums and raccoons and everything all over living know they’ll go down in your storm sewer drainage and move around and come out at night.
Wreak havoc we love that exactly trash panda.

[52:06] We’ve got let’s see hunting with Derek is one of our programs and that’s such an original name and Wheaties in to death about it but,
that’s the guy that’s taking people out one on one
his name is Derek and you’re hunting with tarek
we got that program we got tons of programs coming up for winter will be doing ice fishing cross country skiing snowshoeing and some indoor programs to.

[52:37] Game fish and Parks we’ve got of course every season in the world is coming up right now we encourage everybody to wear Hunter Orange
please yes I want to prevent those accidents that happen out in the field remember where you’re at the end of your gun is pointing
and look beyond your target make sure that there’s nothing on the other side of your target that you can be shooting toward.
You know don’t shoot near houses and livestock and just be nice that’s the best thing to speed nice.
Why can’t everybody be nice and all of the out-of-state Hunters.
They do so much for our economy not just in the state and Sioux Falls in particular they bring in so much funny,
in tax dollars in revenue from hotels in restaurants and gas stations and you know sporting goods stores they are a great source of tax income for us.
So be kind to him so they’ll come back.

[53:48] Excellent yeah that kind of cover what did I forget.

[53:59] Also say being outside will do that
good it’s a gateway drug to getting you Outdoors,
allergic to mosquitoes and mosquitoes,
oh I know don’t you look for that.
Let’s see so yeah so the Tasha’s is being outside so I yeah I’m going to do my Shameless plug is going to be fall and fall weather cuz,
fall rocks.
Let’s see a my birthday is coming up so you know there’s that too
let’s see as always here are our Mainstay Shameless plugs please help support the Sioux Empire podcast Network and all we do to bring you local content
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to hear bands and acts rappers that you know from this area are people that are on the pot this podcaster the other podcasts who,
are performing and they sound amazing this is like it you didn’t know it was that was like local you just think you turn on a radio in cuz it’s the quality is just excellent and.
Thea thank you very much for coming today thanks for having me this is so much fun.

Sioux Empire Podcast Bonus Interview: Brian Wirth

In this bonus interview, Robert Mehling sits down with Brian Wirth Independent Candidate for State Senate District 25.

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“We need leaders who will represent the interests of the people and communities that we take pride in calling home. We are continuously surrounded with divisive media tactics that seemingly push us apart and make us avoid having meaningful political conversations. I want to bring the conversations back to the people that make up our communities and find ways to work together on issues. If we take the time to talk to our neighbors, we will find that we all agree on almost all of the issues. We all want a safe environment to raise our families, we all want equal opportunity to succeed or fail, and we all want to be able to go to the doctor without bankrupting families.”

Machine Transcript
[0:50] This is Robert mehling with the Sioux Empire podcast and I am joined today by Brian Wirth who was an independent candidate for State Senate District 25 welcome to the show Brian thank you.
Tell us a little bit about yourself I,
I will be honest I’ve been following the governor’s race pretty close but I have not gotten into a lot of the the local districts especially 25 is a little further north than me so,
tell us a little bit about yourself your district and why you’re running originally from Hurley South Dakota I’ve been in South Dakota my life.
I went to USD. Degrees in political science and criminal justice I was there 2001 to 2005.

[1:44] And I was all over the place I did cuz I had to Anthropologie in history in there too but yeah I’m just like,
I’m wondering like to do we take doctor cards South Dakota politics together maybe probably that out that sounds about right tennis crazy to advisor okay.
I also so yeah good old days used to be us so.
I actually have my best friend back then sister work for Tom daschle I’m actually trying to get an internship there buddy that will do that when I was a junior.
Yeah I’m college so that kind of went through and then I waste no time starting a family with my then girlfriend now wife.
We have two kids 11 and 8 my oldest is in 6 grade 9 the Third.
Kind of guilty of like a lot of people is not really following local politics very well.
One thing I did get my attention was when initiative measure 22 got repealed yes cuz a lot of support amounts of Voters and then,
600 Stooges,
turn around and repeal honest is kind of the trail and my mind and it was until well into starting my campaign in our guy should be on the ballot I learned that the incumbent I’m running against is one of the people who led the way in between that and it’s because lobbyist told her to.

[3:07] Oh yes I remember that that session with the the gold watches in the.
All the stuff going on there I was I was a pretty vocal critic of them doing that unlike declaring a state of emergency because people voted on something.
That’s that’s an emergency man and I think they said they were going to put something I’ll fix it but they never did of course.
Oh yeah I will will totally come back and fix it sure I.
Actually left both parties in 2009 after I registered in Dell Rapids Benatar have it for 9 years because of the banking bailout of 2008 and that is Unforgivable,
both parties build out large Banks but they didn’t bail out Working Class People or the middle class.
The what now I’m sorry I had another type of bank or like security I don’t know about yeah I was raised you know you work hard you’re honest you know things will work out for,
call my dad’s Farm are you still is Farmers of the hardest working people in this state that they are the backbone of our economy so much depends on them but yet.

[4:31] You know they’re not getting their fair share the Family Farms need to be more supported we need to move away from concentrated animal feeding operations and clover Farms move things back towards local.
Small business.
Sure no District 25 that’s that’s got a chunk of rural north north of Sioux Falls if I remember correctly the east side east side of Sioux Falls,
Sioux Falls is pretty diced up for some reason some reason quotes in the air Colton Dell Rapids where I’m at Garretson,
I’ll be at Valley Springs so wraps around Brandon and then down to Valley Springs and then we get the southeast chunka Sioux Falls the.
Dawley Farms are you sure so.

[5:22] So then you’re running as an independent because of the the bailouts.
For those who would like to know more about your of Stan on different issues and background I mean is there is there a site would you say you lean right or being left or is it by an issue by issue, Elkhart thing or where at where are you at,
tide sadly in left thumb I think the working class needs better representation in all levels of government I believe.

[5:51] People been struggling to pay medical bills and their insurance for too long and when you do something does happen to me at the fight with your insurance company I mean I was out in,
Valley Springs talking several people who you know they have health insurance but then when they get sick it doesn’t cover what it needs to and they’re on the phone for.
You know it’s like a full-time job just throw the other insurance company because just keep going up and up and I mean the Affordable Care Act was a step in the right direction but it’s just my mind it was a handout to the insurance companies.
I think what as a as a state senator from District 25 could you do about that well when the federal government gives you the opportunity this expand Medicaid you could take that opportunity instead of show,
and if we had to free all this pull the money we spent on health insurance and health care we could probably come up with a better just South Dakota cares program,
pretty impossible with very low tax statement pro-business not look in a dress if we change anything on the South Dakota level but I don’t want it.

[6:58] Are ethics board retail they don’t want opportunities like expanding Medicaid to be ignored.
I don’t want our legislators to do what lobbyists tell them to prefer they listen to their constituents and.

[7:14] Which politicians could run more honestly and less on rhetoric buzzwords.
I’m coming I’m running against but the other candidates with house for example in my district will run on things like family ethics.
Low taxes and that’s all they saying that you know that wins.

[7:38] People love to hear going to lower my taxes that’s great that’s awesome but what’s the alternative.
What does the Democratic party offer people in this state.

[7:53] Yeah I asked a lot of people would do the Democrats stand for I don’t know what they stand for in the state seems like they’re all stuck fighting battles before I was born.

[8:04] We ever find what will let you know.
Yeah it sucks it’s a I don’t know just me personal opining here since like I feel like.

[8:18] It’s like the Democrats or the Republicans are just way too,
cuz I’m probably like libertarian almost at my at my bent but the Republicans in the state are would hate to comfortable they are way too I can do anything and no one can touch me and,
I mean I’ve been events work just from like our state reps of like that why she just nothing but contempt for the people that represent like.
Who does Ino like I’ve been in political events in Minnesota at other places and I’ve never seen local representatives to act so like,
unwashed masses going to like I’ve never seen it on that scale I’ve seen it here and it’s cuz they’re way too comfortable so just like part of me wants,
do Democrats or Independence in there if nothing else just to like scare them a little bit and remind them hey you actually do represent people and losing is a possibility yeah I think,
the Democrats need to run Linux support Working Families more they need to run.

[9:20] Are policies that will actually help them that’s why it since I am an independent I have to run on positions I can’t run on party I can’t run right,
Library Castle things I represent obviously I believe in our living wages medicare-for-all and getting money out of politics,
I might think that love last one getting money out of politics because it’s all that issue the other two to fix themselves by now,
I think if you work a full-time job you should be able to pay your bills should be able to support their families craziness and.

[9:51] What’s the plan to fix the healthcare crisis one example of one solution people offer is Medicare for all.
It saves money even a study that was released to discredit medicare-for-all prove that it saves us to trillion dollars over 10 years.
So I don’t know if you’re physically conservative it seems like you should Port should support.
I got to tell you it’s a fiscal conservative I have no idea where that where the hell i’ll and now of considering,
the spending going on in Washington is like now you’re supposed to vote Republican and that’s it that’ll bring the fiscal conservatism.
History is not buried that out let’s put that way yeah be nice if people ran.
And then get back on accident but they ran on you know they say they want to limit government but the government gets bigger every year will they want to let it limits.

[10:44] The meaning of limited government we could limit the NSA Wireless tapping of American citizens.
You’re actually in favor of flexible people having a civil liberties and Privacy Act.

[11:00] Crazy with these crazy ideas pie-in-the-sky like like freedom and yeah I don’t know man that’s pretty scary working for families I mean what.
Are you speaking Klingon right now I don’t know sorry this this election cycle has me very very Senegal we just had an episode of South dacola podcast where we were talking what are predictions for the election stuff,
it’s left me very demoralizing very cynical about the upcoming election just to hear some of the people who been watching it for a long time analyzing and tell me what’s going to happen in like.

[11:41] People just need to,
do the research try and get informed help if you turn the cable news off not much on there that’s informing you and mostly it’s just looking people into a frenzy getting them to fight,
if you actually talk to the people next to you how do we solve these problems you tend to find out we all kind of agree medicare-for-all has 70% sport in America population,
that’s 80% Democrats and 50 a majority over 50% pumpkin support it why isn’t it law or why isn’t my past.
How many the reason I come up with.

[12:18] You know it sounds it sounds cliche or like you’re beating a dead horse but I mean that’s just.
That’s what it is it’s just like totally uncontrolled unfettered money which how do you control.
You know money and spending and politics post citizens united you know I have to pass a law that makes that illegal.

[12:40] Corporations are people money is not speech speech speech people are people so at the Supreme Court level guess.

[12:49] But baby steps in the meantime like at the South Dakota level getting back to a little more local what can you do about the,
that the money issue in politics while we can vote Yes on Amendment w,
don’t think it’s coincidence my last name is worth w w I like it.
I’m going to try to make sure that pass and then you got to make sure that.
People in charge this next session you know set it up correctly so honest politicians.
Do you research don’t just vote down the ticket many of your candidates websites can contact him through phone numbers call him ask him what issues I support don’t ask him what.
Party day right on don’t ask him what buzzwords are using just what are they can do to help you as a welder absolutely.
So you know it’s one thing to to be upset about like the the measure and stuff like that with the you don’t like w and everything and it’s precursors,
but what in particular like in your personal history and story makes you want to want to go to go to pier and you know get get into that.
That conversation.

[14:11] I guess I’ve always been kind of concerned about ethics and laws and preventing fraud I have for the past 12 years worked as a financial crimes investigator First Premier Bank card and then now at MetaBank,
investigate cases involving tax fraud money laundering human trafficking event marijuana businesses.
Just so you would probably scare the crap out of here by the financial crimes are taking place.

[14:50] Guy I like that that’s a that’s a good selling point let’s see.

[14:55] How can people learn more about you and your your campaign and your stand on the issues like you just mentioned like reaching out and talk to you how come people do that on Facebook,
websites www. Brian Wirth 6:05. Cam has lost everything it has sold it more about me.
You can contact me through the website for Facebook you can find my phone number I believe through Facebook but I forgot podcast not sure what that would do.

[15:25] I did give out you know the phone number.
I have a business cards. Took us out to hundreds of people and two people said they call me,
nobody called nobody really seems to care about people are waiting for like the next like presidential election to fix everything and yeah it’s Tessa,
tough and I guess it’s even get mad about it but I guess it’s human nature so it’s like you know.

[15:58] You know that sing with the midterm elections is just like I felt like if we did something like made.
How the elections on Saturdays are made that a holiday or something like that be great and then,
in the US the like voter registration system where it’s just like every state has,
A random assortment of flaming Hoops you have to jump through in order to be registered and then there’s a mechanism to kick you off the register and everything that you know it’s just a hodgepodge and I’m a very states rights person,
but I feel like we need some reform in the just our election system just so that it’s a little more,
General Democratic sure to get rid of things like cross-check I don’t know how familiar with that program South Dakota does participate in that is just as your first and last night match this type of person you’re,
be a fraudulent motor and they kick you off and portents for people to make sure you’re registered and probably check to see if you’re still registered just unfortunate.
I mean I should be able to register to vote when you get your driving all you can you get driver’s license or just having a driver’s license should be enough,
oh yeah. Holiday for boating cuz I mean lost people work last people work multiple jobs to make ends meet.
YouTube support being informed we need to support being able to vote.

[17:24] And we need our leaders are legislators to represent people not large corporate Pac money interest.
Sure so one last saying anything else that you think the voters should,
here here actually let’s go with this usually my closing interview question is if I lived in your District why specifically over any other of the candidates running should I vote for you in particular.

[17:54] I believe I’m overly qualified I do did study this in college I studied in since I have been working like I said as a financial crimes investigator I have a family I know what it’s like.
Baton struggle to pay medical bills I know what it’s like to work for less than a living wage.

[18:15] My comment let the weight of brachial initiative measure 22 she is not there to represent my district she is there to take.

[18:25] Lobbyists interest.
And then it’s actually three-way race so little bit more about this recent particular,
tried to reach out get involved see if I can help somebody run a campaign and,
didn’t hear anything in the meantime the Democratic party failed to nominate anyone to run against the incumbent they sent the.
Petitions in certified and said it registered nurse Allah you have to send the petitions in registered mail.
Never say anything registered meals pretty intense you have to go to a,
post office novel by the contract office and they take out this old machine and they run this tape in the string and then they stamp at about you know a hundred forty two times so since they didn’t get,
all the petition sent incorrectly,
there is qualified so that’s when I started going door-to-door to make sure that my voters had a choice when it came to this little C and South Dakota District 25.
Do you have an option to go without the person who repealed your ethics board.

[19:36] Sounds good Brian thank you for joining us today and you can learn more at Brian Wirth 6:05. Com will also link to all of that in the show notes thanks for listening everyone and we’ll see you next time.

Sioux Empire Podcast 125 Jason Kurtz and Sion Lidster with Full Circle Book Co-op

Finally finished with our SiouxperCon Hangover, the Sioux Empire Podcast is ready to get back to business.  Specifically the book business with Jason Kurtz and Sion Lidster with Full Circle Book Co-op who are launching a new downtown location.  But first, we take a look at Sioux Falls, and it’s growing reputation, we name a new school, and finally, the crew explores the consequences of stacking hamsters.  This episode is brought to you by Perlocution Podcast; Turning idle chatter into thoughts that matter. Comedian White Boi along with guests gives commentary on society, culture, and entertainment. No boundaries. No filters.  The Sioux Empire Podcast always stacks its rodents in an orderly manner.  


South Dakota’s biggest city isn’t a college town or a state capital or in the Sun Belt. So how does it keep growing and growing?


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Hamster Stacking…?

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[0:00] Empire podcast 125.

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[0:54] Well good morning and welcome everyone welcome to another fantastic episode of the Sioux Empire podcast the quirky but harmless podcast it’s all about Sioux Empire news, music and culture,
I am your host Robert mehling and joining us is long-absent host Natasha Estes cheese.
Yes how’s married life treating you are you are you regretting anything yet after one full month mark.
One and a half.

[1:26] Okay it’s a good it’s a good thing you didn’t reply with exactly a hundred and seventy two hours 10 minutes 12 seconds
Spider-Man that is a lot of math
math is not kind to me so yeah yeah awesome congratulations finally get to tell you that in person and also joining us is Jason and Shawn from the full circle book Co-op,
welcome to the show gentlemen thank you where did IHOP first into headlines and then we’ll talk to these guys little bit about their their project.
Our first headline is South Dakota’s biggest city is in the college isn’t a college town or state capitol or the Sun Belt so why does it keep growing.
The big thing here is that a few weeks ago here Bloomberg actually did a big write-up that was very nice about,
Sioux Falls being a mecca for industry and for growth and I mean I know we get a lot of these like new stories and stuff like that,
regularly that are like you know arbitrary people put out arbitrary list lists and we happen to be on it but I thought it was an interesting.
Interesting article just talking about like a lot of the things that Sioux Falls has growing for it and I thought something you guys would appreciate cuz you’re going to go to the downtown culture of the art culture especially like the spoken word written word kind of stuff,

[2:53] Yeah I’m curious to get your your take on do you feel like Sioux Falls has grown as a place for for parts like written word spoken word stuff like that.

[3:07] Yeah I mean I’ve been here 5 years and December now and I mean when I first got here as far as the spoken word I couldn’t find my.
You like when I first got here everyone was this painting rocks together and grunting in people now we’re hitting about 50 to 60.
You know each month so it’s growing in and that says a lot of work Jason’s been doing with the the right in community as well it’s working hand-in-hand to help that grow.
Everything was you no music in all kinds of different not work and stuff sometimes,
Urban Indians podcast about how much the music scene is grown because Gabriel’s kind of one of those like original Sioux Falls rappers or whatever and he will sit there with like V the noble one and a few others and Bill tell stories about,
having to pay a venue to let them perform,
back in the early aughts and stuff like that just begging people to show up to it knowing they were to lose money on the whole thing and it’s come a long way since then.
All you have to do is.

[4:17] Just look on you know a Facebook events calendar something for the weekend there’s open mics all over town now and two years ago when we started some of the stuff.
You know Sean’s you know the beer in poetry gig was the only open my poetry thing going on in Sioux Falls and now.
There’s regular ones there’s like three regular ones a week or a month that are ensure they incorporate sometimes incorporate stand up and live music and stuff like that but.
There’s just really a lot more venues that you can actually use,
and that’s why we’ve decided to start the full circle Book quote because it’s there so many people that want to get out there and be creative in the community that finding a venue is really getting hard to find then so.
Yeah I mean we had our biggest South Dakota rights does writers happy hour.
On the third Monday of every month third Monday night of every month and.
In January of this year we had our biggest one we had almost 50 people show up just for a happy hour on a Monday night in January.

[5:22] Because I probably were stir crazy after the holiday we are thing but I mean still.

[5:27] Considering that two years ago I think I got it. Human being instead of my family right kind of an interesting thing to see the,
the art community grow at least from our,
do something we get involved in absolutely and I mean obviously you guys are coming we’ll get to that in the second half beer but you’re investing in this like idea of Sioux Falls going to growing and developing as an artistic place what.
What are your thoughts or do you have any theories on why Sioux Falls why now and why Sioux Falls.

[5:59] I don’t know if I have any theories but I have some interesting statistics they said that for every person I’ve read recently we had to some statistics kind of thrown around that for every person that we lose to Minneapolis from Sioux Falls we get eight back.
Nationals and so I think that it has to do with a lot of the meaning of the hospitals and in the you know a lot of the bigger I mean you know I think.
One of your your satellites put out a comedic post the other day about we’re just installing cranes downtown to look like a big city but in reality I thought the crane they had there was really huge in the first place and I had to use that cream to put up the really big green.
Downtown right now that we’ve reached a peak crane.
But I mean just you know some of those statistics like Lincoln County I know two or three years ago is the fastest-growing county in the US.
And that basically constitutes 57th Street South and so I mean there’s just a lot of.
Big things happening in Sioux Falls so I imagine that with all those exciting new things with the Levitt Shell and a bunch of those things happening people hear about that and then they want to come.
To a city like ours that still small enough but not too big yet.

[7:20] Sure let’s see and then Natasha you bet you’ve been quiet your your back up on the scene what what do you do pay attention to local art scene to you,
do you feel like it’s it’s developing I mean like your your your new hubby I mean he’s Lee involved in like the tattoo scene and stuff like that those are kind of like epicenters for a lot of the art and culture in town here Julian and Company and request Dustin,
is the coolest but I mean do you ever hang out there with him and see like what’s going on and.
Yeah but mostly I just sit there with my yarn and makes faces at him before he notices on there about the plants like laugh and he’s like what are you laughing at you laughing is like.
Oh I didn’t get to this little Kermit the Frog it’s supposed to be supposed to be Ghost Rider I know but yeah I’m kind of screwed Kermit the Frog.

[8:29] Cool talents and stuff so let’s see next door here.
This one’s more of just you know if they pass the big Bond bill here in town so we’re to get our new new high schools.
Spending the big money on education and of course the most important thing we have to consider about that is what are we going to name the new high school which.

[8:56] I don’t know I thought for sure they’d go with the whole Rushmore theme that they had going so it was going to be like Jefferson.
But apparently that’s not set in stone.

[9:08] So my humble humble submission is that we call at Sanford High.

[9:15] Best mascots could be the fighting Denny’s I was thinking you know.
One of the more innocuous presidents like Wilson maybe you know somebody that Harding and somebody that was,
kind of below-the-radar a little bit you know are there any schools that was it usually caesarea ever president.
There’s a few of them to have like more Lakota influence pains and then there are some that are you know like or like civil rights figures and slow by ro you got some other ones.

[9:59] Maybe Ginsburg no RDG throw that out.
The school Mount Rushmore will never be as cool as Western South Dakota Mount Rushmore.

[10:18] Yes we know we know you’re at the West River and that West River is better than East River she got it.
Becca to Westside co-hosts there their they’re always ganging up on me about how much better the west side,
sometimes other than that like having a place to shop and live in job,
but it’s really pretty to visit it’s really pretty Sylvan Lake amazing but no jobs.

[10:51] So

[10:53] You know there’s stuff the Facebook comments on this have just been golden just like schoolie mcschoolface Garth that big research vessel boaty mcboatface.
Absolutely thanks internet.

[11:13] It’s kind of like oh what was it on the International Space Station that they were going to name and then.
Better naming contest in banded up shutting off the being able to submit any name yep I remember that.
To change it halfway through the contest to change it to like you have these 12 options and they’re all like very like Endeavor and Wikia yeah they’re all they’re all like Star Trek ship names basically yes.

[11:39] Star Trek Excelsior defiance let’s see.

[11:48] So are our last new story we’re going to talk about here you don’t really hard hitting new stuff but going on here.

[11:55] Is the hamster stacking incident thing I don’t know if you’ve seen the the Billboards I finally saw one this morning but I’ve been following it online and they have been like replying to me and stuff like that,
okay full disclosure on Tuesday night I was running Monday night I was running a really high fever.
And I proceeded to get on there and launched a gigantic tirade at them about how,
what kind of Ray Bradbury Halloween twist ending is I’d like a hamster’s going to eat my face or it might have turned into a hamster
or you guys secretly hamsters on with keyboards or I’m just like what
what’s the Shyamalan twist here about this like this pops up it’s right before Halloween there’s got to be something like Syfy Twilight Zone Shenanigans going on here,
there, it was just like wow okay,
yes really interesting but are but what we are is a lot less I-5 and what your which yeah turn out to be pretty mundane it’s the what’s the name of the group.
It’s appointment up here maybe if it was low.
Yeah there we go Heineken Schultz creative it’s the one that created the whole hamster stacking website and got this whole ball rolling.

[13:23] Babe they picked initiated measure 27 because that this is their 27th year in in business that’s why they.
Get that hold on it to send proposal I just like you but you spent much you spent money on billboards and a website and a Facebook ad campaign.
You know Google quick one so I case you guys haven’t seen it you’re still the website.

[13:50] The art of hamsters dancing it’s incredibly vital the local businesses and surrounding communities Coppola still going,
yes let’s let’s stack those hamsters.
Oh yes is pulling ahead right now this is as of 10:24 a.m. Central Time Saturday October 13th 65.22% of Voters are saying stack them hamsters.
No hamsters should run amok.

[14:28] But at Tasha’s apparently.
That’s a great face when you’re pitching Anarchy by the way that is the face to do it well.
Saw that could there’s a big east of a picture of these the stack of hamsters.
Oh oh and then I don’t know if it was like.
Ghetto hamster devil,
and after that I put obviously the green one cuz there was a red one a green one and a blue one with like no reason it’s just obviously,
Good Times.
So yeah supercon wrapped up and we had a great time with that obviously if you listen this podcast you caught up on.

[15:24] Everything I was doing there with all the panels there’s one left to are yet that’s the life but Capri more recording we did you want to be sure and check that out over it Macabre
That’ll be I think I episode comes out 2 weeks it cuz the recording schedule with that one we’re so far out ahead with episodes we recorded the.
It’s like we got a back catalog of things to like push out there.
But anyway that’s that’s the news that’s what’s going on locally anyway all the very important stories at at least course of course.
So let’s jump into a full circle book Co-op so tell us a little bit about first off it’s a co-op.

[16:06] What what up what up with that so am I going to be able to go get like my sex mug filled with coffee every morning or I don’t know about that.
Well that’s a start the co-op model it’s kind of based off the the food called Model where you become a member of.
Of the of the whole thing but you don’t have to be a member to shop there it’s more like an added benefit if you do there’s a couple of different ways to become a member whether it’s paying or you can donate your time or you can.

[16:45] Gout in blood out.
When we were inspecting the basement we walked in downstairs and you know there’s no lightning or anything in,
we got our phones out when do the back room and there’s like a hundred candles burn to the ground is a big black backdrop this tins of salt and fake blood everywhere,
and so it might be room for some blood donations,
you don’t work out you can always open a for text to hell in the basement,
reasons for it down there but we’ve kind of like the mystery aspect of it a little bit but.

[17:43] They’re going to ride it out don’t do was feeling music video down there or something for a commercial and so it turned out to be.
It was scary on that initials.
Recall on the 605 Ghostbusters right now we saw the hydro guys were trying to smoke us out something new.

[18:11] Star Lake.
I don’t think we’re we’re in New England at this like that old ones we feel them if I was going on.

[18:26] Yeah I know so,
and it’s a it’s a club for a lot of reasons because we’re you know we partner with a lot of local businesses and stuff as well I mean we’re going to have a featured artist every month that’s going to be hosted by,
I asked him the same in Prince and repeat and she’s kind of,
artistic coordinator and she’s got people lined up to be a featured artist through the next couple months actually,
and so every first Friday we will launch a new artist and we have their stuff on the wall and then we have prints for sale.

[19:03] And that’s you know how we’re supporting them we have a vendor area so on our opening on our grand opening weekend we have.
Any Jane handicrafts coming in and setting up there she does leather and leather jewelry and stuff like that so she’s going to have a booth in there plus we have all the South Dakota right to authors that are going to be having their books they’re on the shelf and so it’s really,
when you think of a food co-op where they get like a lot of local produce and everything we’re doing exactly the same thing except for the artistic community so it really is a co-op,
any ideas at all these people are contributing to the space not to mention we have the block Collective will be headquartered their self go to rights will be headquartered there.
You know just a lot of different organizations going to come in together to use the spacing and make it something amazing so nice.

[19:55] Let’s see so why books,
what why is that your ear like go to thing for so I can imagine this is like a bar coffee bar always keep it like venues that could be like a center for like artistic,
Endeavors why bookstore well it is a bookstore Beer and Wine Bar.
And event space so I mean it’s kind of we’ve heard of different places but I guess when I was getting my MFA in up in Minneapolis they had.
The Loft,
up there and it said they had it’s basically a bookstore that that teaches classes and they host events when authors come to town so they have like you know,
I believe anyway they have wine and cheese it’s been awhile since I’ve been up there but I think they have that kind of thing I’m like I think I thought the Sioux Falls was big enough to support a place like that and so the idea of,
the BET and they also do like handcrafted cards and it so they kind of have a this.

[20:56] Not exactly what we’ve done I think we’ve done it more Grassroots and more intensely local maybe than the loft is done cuz I think they do have new,
but like their regular independent Bookseller I think and we’re not clan on quite go that way but part of the philosophy to which Sean’s been you know talking about a little bit.
Is that we wanted to provide a place that artist can actually afford to come too and you can talk a little bit more about our flaskey on that.
We want to to be the place that I just can just spend 6 hours working on that project lol you know meeting up with people to talk about the project without breaking the bank and without then having to.

[21:38] Been doing that money you know I want to give people time.
To add to work on Monday the passions part of that is keeping the prices low in the shop everything everything except for like reading books and maybe particular items is probably under $10.
Coffee will be affordable books will be three and four dollars about from the the local author books for everything that is a used book I will be that.
And as far as why books in a bar I mean.

[22:10] If I was at loose in a Bookshop after a couple of beers that’s I’m buying a lot of books.
Yeah I don’t know what I mean these things exist in like some of the major city you know the city as you can.

[22:25] Go to Colorado then spear books there is you know these things are around and we just figured that was time that’s too. Plus there’s no fuse Bookshop.
You know specific used book shop downtown zombro sell some books and last stop CD shop also sells him but you know.
Used book store on we have we have thousands of books ready on the Shelf so awesome.

[22:49] Very cool what so we’ve established why why the books and you can a hopping on the the idea of.
Investing in the idea of like a performance space.
And we talked a little bit about before we got in this part about why you’re doing the their performance space but.
More specifically why was that important to you to like personally specifically to have a.
Performance space downtown like that well that was the whole thing we’ve been running our own non-profits for 2 or 3 years.

[23:29] It’s tough to find a an all-ages venue that also could accommodate you know I don’t see want to have a beer on order glass of wine while watching something without spending $300 on a venue for a non-profit running on a shoestring budget,
you you don’t even bring me a coffee so we just figured.
Well if we open up our own place maybe we can substitute with you no beer Wine and Food Sales Plus the books and then we can just have either free space or very affordable space for any nonprofits or individuals who want to hold some stuff there.
That was that was very first conversation I had with you about this I think was how to solve that problem and that’s what we this is what we come up with.
Two guys sitting around like it we should have a business let’s make a bar you know I like yeah,
block puzzles but that’s not the Genesis of this it really came up with what are we going to do like we were sitting down possibly at a bar and we had our our calendars out for the next two months and we’re like.

[24:32] Sean and I literally we posted probably 200 events in the last 2 years either here locally in Sioux Falls or across the state and.

[24:43] We were having like but we can’t go here cuz they’re booked we can’t go here cuz they’re booked we can’t get in here oh well we love going to library but they don’t allow you to charge a ticket event while we have.
You know we’re going to have a special guest speaker we have to pay them and we know from experience that if we pay our speaker and we don’t have a ticket event then we always go in the hole,
and so how are we going to We Can’t basically a year-and-a-half ago we just said we can’t keep doing this like.

[25:12] We were spending so much time on the organization aspects of just finding a venue versus actually putting the classes together and doing a bunch of other stuff.
And so that’s kind of we started with the event space and then we’ll how can we provide the event space without.

[25:28] Breaking the Bank you know like how what are we going to do for it well of course everyone that shows up to our events wants to eat and drink so that was the next logical thing and then we thought well.
The South Dakota rights authors never have shelf space so what about.
You know how do we get there books on the shelf and then what about you know poetry books poetry is a very under marketed you know venue,
I’m in a lot of the book stores in town and things like that and we knew we had some local poets and local authors and so just kind of you know grew into this idea,
books and beer and wine and and leave in space but,
where do you gather where do you hang out and there was no one Collective space and I don’t I mean there’s not so we were hoping to be that,
I’m taking a little bit of the responsibilities of yuno gasai keeping those prices low.
I mean to get to get like philosophical with it I was I was in The Beatles Museum back home in Liverpool.

[26:32] Adesina stood out to me is that if it wasn’t this one business in town in Liverpool who who allowed people to buy their guitars on like layaway.
The Beatles never would have picked up a Guitar because they could never afford it so it becomes a responsibility of a community in the business and the bigger picture to.
To accommodate if you want to build a Nazi and I’ll help you out seeing grow so that’s kind of his kind of what we were trying to do thought about but yeah I mean.
Do you know it’s like what what do you do to fertilize the ground and create.
Environment for that kind of community did you go in and it’s a $6 cup of coffee you have one copy and copy and leave and you know what I mean like if you’re broke
it’s all pretty but if you got a bottomless cup for 2 bucks you know maybe it’s different with the people that are on an Apple laptop who are working on their novel that is Sunday come out
and knock and yeah,
I like the idea of keeping it affordable and accessible that’s that’s really cool about the book Co-Op part but,
very many people at few people ask us about why full circle and the whole concept is is that we started out with.

[27:47] People who who you know right there palm and get up on stage and speak it out loud and we start with people who are riding their novel and then we teach them how to edit it or we teach them how to speak better and then we teach them how to put it into book form,
and then we help them get their hard copies and then we provide a place to put them on the Shelf so it’s a you know from origin to finish it comes right back in the same location,
and that’s something that we’ve seen already have it over and over again I mean we have people in the black Collective are in the process right now on,
the night of November 3rd when we’re doing our next year in poetry our first one at the shop.
Our friend Matt Miller just since we’ve known him in the last year has got a book together a poetry book that he’s been reading it at Open Mic poetry in.

[28:33] South Dakota rights authors you know.
Because we meet regularly and they see other people putting their books out they finally like I should put my book out and so then they get online and get their books out and we’ve had just,
explosion of new books a new poetry books in the last year that did not exist prior to when we started so I mean.
Yeah it’s pretty sure that the moment that’s coming out,
so we can take some classes on that kind of stuff and school.
Let’s see so what’s your your timeline on on on opening up.

[29:21] November 2nd grand opening night and weekend cuz we’ve had a lot of lot of interest on Facebook,
when was the last time you saw a line outside of a bookstore probably not often here in Sioux Falls anyway maybe for a Harry Potter release at Barnes & Noble,
but yeah cuz we have you know a certain capacity that load that we can only handle and we.

[29:49] According to you know some of the statistics are seeing on Facebook we are going to smash that on opening night so,
San Leandro is the opening day we’re running a Kickstarter right now that has an option to come to the pre-launch party on the Thursday night probably visit,
which will be there let you know the first time that you’ll get to see all the changes that we made and stuff that we’ve got sample of foods get some beers wines and.
Take some books off the shelf Maybe.
We have a lot of other options for specific,
we actually have a ton of stuff going on that hold grand opening weekend we have like I said we have a handicraft vendor coming in on,
Saturday afternoon we have Matt’s watching his book at the beer in poetry not on Saturday night we have.
Nanowrimo which is National novel writing month is the the our first kick it kick off right in is that Saturday or Sunday afternoon so we have a lot of,
I mean the opening weekend is already packed and then,
on our calendar already coming up we have a few things that are monsters real theater company’s going to be coming and doing some things with us in looking at working with Indie band for a midnight movie and then.

[31:13] Talking with Angelica Mikado about a woman’s poetry night and to help the.

[31:21] Help with that movement so we we have got some stuff coming up and got a pretty pretty varied but.

[31:29] Very cool let’s see so.
You know first. Look up your good guys have been collecting books for a while you’ve been very active for not having a location you’ve been like a very active organization that I’ve had people remarks like
they don’t have locations are working on it and it worked,
yeah we were Optimus no business people who know so we we we thought that would be open last summer time,
we thought we just walk into the space but finally enough. Space we have now with the very first place we have looked at and,
again yeah it’s supposed to go all the way nice,
book drives in Jason’s garage for the last year with the community of just pulled out and just being so cool,
most of our inventory is from donations from the community and there’s some really good stuff with some unexpected books that have come through which is great.
Yeah we just picked up four thousand bucks the other night yeah that’s how so I put down two flights of stairs to 1.6 tons of books by ourselves and one night but yeah that’s the fun training program.
Yeah we’re both dumping weight like crazy it’s awesome but no I think we’re we I think we’ve crested over 30,000 books now currently in our inventory.

[32:53] And then just I mean anything is if we would have been opened last August we would not have had our supply we would not have had a lot of the things that we now have in the shop.
And so,
it actually just turned out kind of perfect that we however we were bursting capacity we had a storage unit that was overflowing at a double stalex in the garage it was overflowing my spare bedroom is overflowing,
add stop stacking up in my living room Sean’s got stuff in his house in his living room in his garage and we’re like.

[33:25] We had a move-in day last Sunday where we had a group of about 20 volunteers come and help us.
And I have my entire house I can park my car in the garage for the first time in a year-and-a-half it’s amazing like just some of those like emotional moments that you want to get back you know I mean but,
absolutely fun crazy watching something you like this got to be exhilarating to just like a lot of fun being really good living and care of them we’ve just just being a blast you know.
Julia just got out for another Community response is just being pretty hot warming and especially for a Kickstarter to I mean we’ve had all these books donated which humbles us and then all the people are actually giving us money to do this which we are.
So thankful and so humbled in mind boggled everyday we’re at 91% of our Kickstarter we have 9 or 5 days left now and we’re just everyday we’re just you know feeling that the community really wants us to happen just like we do so we’re really excited,
that is awesome.

[34:25] Let’s see sweet covered your opening date you guys and you have a Kickstarter going on we’ll link to that in the show notes trying to think of what else I should bug you about are you guys still doing the,
the compilation that like Midwest apocalypse how’s that going.
Well let me see maybe I could take that one up know the funny thing was it courses that last year we had all these high hopes of getting open and everything and we wanted to have some books ready to go for when we opened well of course we were hanging on to them.

[35:01] Until we get a shop open and so they have weird kind of put on the back burner as a because we do want to do local publishing that’s.
Essentially the final part of the full circle is that we publish it for the local people as well so we do have Midwest apocalypse Anthology and,
a poetry magazine Penzeys into mace and actually that one might come out first even though that the call was afterwards but that one’s going to be a lot easier to put together sure until I think we’re very close on getting that one to the printer and you know,
of course now with the the shop opening itself it might be January when we see some time to actually put that out but.
We would love to do a launch you know a lunch in January where we just have a random,
you know oh here’s our new publication and we’re going to have a you know it a book launch for the new publication and things like that and so we do,
a 10 so that was fun getting I mean like you said we have not been still and that was one of the things we thought we could probably get organized while we had we’re waiting for a permanent location and so yeah we do have those too,
pieces of publication in the works right now and then you know we have one of my gosh just so many things on the plate.

[36:11] To get organized I mean like employees and
food ordering and construction and we finally have our permits all lined up from the city and we have to go to the city council on Monday night and get our beer and wine license and your Tuesday night
it is Monday night last time they moved it to Tuesday but I believe it’s Monday night October 15th okay so yeah so I mean it’s been.

[36:40] All the hoops and of course we’re new at all this so it’s just some things that we’re like okay what’s the next step oh no these are the next seven steps before all day will do these 7 things before we can get to the next step okay I got you so it’s been a
learning curve definitely sounds like a grand Adventure go very much it is.
Let’s see I know we’ve mentioned your downtown but I don’t think we mention the exact location of where you are downtown 123 West 10th Street.
Well that’s easy remember what night is a nice address yeah I didn’t say I did I said dress Hydro used to be in there so it’s the Hydra whole show former Hydra Hall location right across the road from the diner.
Okay yeah 123 West 10th Street.

[37:29] November 2nd full circle be there
skit guys need sandwich boards or one of those guys that like Twirls around the big Arrow to stand on the corner.
A literary gorillavid ago me and Larry’s Pawn a guy out there in gorilla suit holding the book.

[38:02] I’m here with Jason is where we’re throwing books from an overpass in traffic and tell people the books.
Don’t do that.

[38:16] Give them to us give the books to us,
I’ll take him so any anything else you think that people should know about the full circle book Co-op button cuz I mean so,
if I got this right you’re going to have a beer and wine kind of,
you know bar set up there yep you’ve got the bookstore activity going on it is Up Performance space what’s the capacity on the performance base,
oh that’s a good question I believe we the entire,
area is 70 okay and so depending on where we where people are but we’re kind of were tentatively telling people 50 is what the event space is going to be so if they want to book a,
Christmas parties are or if we have to take the adventure something like I think right now it’s full of
stuff and so we we don’t have the chairs all set up and we have a good idea but according to what our new permit allows us to have is going to be 70 for the entire space so
and that includes the bookstore area which is very limited capacity and in the bar and the event space so we figured that it’s more like a 4820.

[39:32] Something kind of thing so we also nothing but love the numbers but we also have a boardroom scriptorium alright with Rhett to mention that you wanted to,
you don’t know prophets have to host meetings monthly things and all the stuff off does any business guys or anybody wanted to just kind of higher up that room and.

[39:51] Yeah so we have we have that extra little spot as well yeah.
This is a lot going on in a small space that we’ve got our boardroom is called the scriptorium.
Nice it Edition ain’t no and an old word basically we’re the monks would go and.
Script you know they would be able to illuminate and they would write their text and so obviously it’s going to be open to anyone who wants to go in there if it’s not booked and it’ll have,
AR archive is going to be in there because one of the things we’ve been doing through South Dakota rights answer the book Co-op as we’ve been buying,
and collecting donations of anything that’s ever been written in South Dakota so it’s a living archive you don’t have to go to SDSU and get down in the archive and check something out you can come in,
see what we have on our shelves and it’s just some of the random things that we have is like,
the the Autobahn the South Dakota Audubon Society quarterly news magazine.
From the 50s we have been like years and years of runs of that we have you know the South Dakota history magazine we have,
the Hulk would we have passed petals from the 70s we have you know annuals from the colleges,
all these have articles that were written by South Dakota residence and I think that that’s something that’s really interesting one of the things we sold at the pop up.
I need American gentleman was in there in and asked if this was for sale and where like of course it is that’s why it’s here it’s like only $3 like yes he’s like why do all the illustrations in that book.

[41:20] And he had a house fire and lost it and I lost all the original and in this book was I think it was drawn in the early 90s it was like a,
it was a lot like locally published book but it was like Lakota dresses like their the way that they dressed in a lot of their fancy dance things and everything,
and he was like almost in tears purchasing it because we had that in our shop Barnes & Noble doesn’t carry that on their shelf you know it’s,
that’s the kind of stuff that we actually gravitate towards and want to grab so we loved having it for him and his awesome,
that the Mystique of a second hand Bookshop you know you get in there and you don’t know what you’re going to find we want to.
They got bigger so instead of just the books you know you don’t know who you’re going to find out how do you know what kind of event will be going on but vendor will be there so I just wanted to make it like an experience of just walking in there not to like.
And I’ll make it to to a funeral philosophical game but you know just just have an experience unique,
you’re not just going to get a cup of coffee you can go in there too you know maybe start a new venture.

[42:26] Cuz I mean that’s how all this started just you know we bumped into each other somewhere just show up.
Podcast probably presents this week’s Shameless plugs well this is the I mean basically giving you like a Shameless plug the second half of this episode Flex if you want to,
do a quick like soundbite Roundup of everything people should know about full circle book Co-op and what’s going on and everything else now is your chance,
if you got any other events not even related to it that you want to promote their selling something or anything like that this is the point of the show where you can feel free to unleash that.
Well I think it will probably just keep that our grand opening weekend we’re at 123 West 10th Street the full circle book Co-op our grand opening is November 2nd,
we have a ton of events going on the entire weekend we have new featured artist Alabama future artist launching that night we have,
featured poet and Open Mic poetry on Saturday night we have National novel writing month kicking off and we have all kinds of things starting to fill the calendar already for the month of November so.
Come down and see us their outstanding Natasha do you have any Shameless bucks this week.

[43:49] All shamelessly plug Spa mm cuz that.

[43:58] Let’s see my Shameless plugs this week are as as always I’m going to plug the two Empire podcast Network and all the great work that all of our volunteers are doing please help me provide them with donuts and coffee,
you could support us at patreon by going to Sioux Falls,
and then a huge thank you to pay transporter Matthew Paulsen if you want your name name-dropped in episodes like this I got to do is sign up for a set level over on me all the old patreon.
And yeah and then also a shout out to sponsor supercon,
of which they’ve already got the dates set for that exact same weekend next year and that is going to be asking to be awesome,
it was really great to see it like totally explode and take over the the space that it did at the convention center this year and I’m really looking forward to next year is that wrath of the Khan next year I believe is the time.
We’re finally out of Star Wars titles Star Trek one so there you go that’s a bee Supercut number for.

[45:05] And then I as always you can listen to the Sioux Empire podcast and all of our podcasts over at live 605 which also does the,
5625 count down which is an amazing weekly countdown,
of the top songs voted on by you from the Sioux Falls Area so it’s all Sioux Falls artists and talent,
and it’s all locals voting online for their if their favorite artists in,
we’ve got a lot of artist friends from Urban Indians podcast to their songs are on those charts and yeah it’s a,
great things will be sure once again to check out all the stuff over at live 605.

[45:44] And I think that does it for this week thank you both gentleman for for being here thank you very much thank you Natasha fur for surviving and making it back and good to see you again hey how was the Buffalo Run that good.

[45:57] Yeah good awesome way to summarize that like spectacular event with the,
who is Nora if I remember it was like the first time or at least in my a long time that it snowed on
although you know on the booths at the Art Festival,
come back but you know it was it was a thing
okay what school got on the poem for next year was going to be so much better there.

[46:35] You know I know how it goes that’s that’s the way I’m with the booth every year for super, some like next year were to do this and what can I do this,
and it usually ends up being an over-reaction plus respond it’s called planning for Wars words like your plan for the last one rather than when you’re actually going to go do you know the exact same way but anyway I digress thank you for joining us everyone and have a great week.

Sioux Empire Podcast 124 How to Podcast Panel from SiouxperCon 2018

Sioux Empire Podcast 124 How to Podcast Panel from SiouxperCon 2018

Robert Mehling, Natasha Estes, and Seth Glover

Have you ever wanted to start a podcast? Are you a podcaster who wants to learn some new tricks? Then you don’t want to miss this panel at SiouxperCon 2018: Return of the Con on Friday, September 28th at 8 PM at the Sioux Falls Convention Center!

What kind of equipment should I use? Is there free software that can help me sound professional? What are the benefits of Podcasting? What are the pitfalls that cost rookie podcasters money and time? We’ve got you covered.

Robert Mehling has been producing podcasts since 2014 for He has created hundreds of episodes for over a dozen podcasts featured in national media such as USA Today and NPR. A podcasting consultant for the State of South Dakota Game Fish & Parks and featured speaker at 1 Million Cups Sioux Falls, he’s offering you a crash course on how to make your podcasts and will be available for Q&A on any aspect of Podcasting.

Famous for his “open door” policy on podcasting Robert has worked to foster an interest in the art of podcasting in others. That’s why he is offering this presentation and Q&A with no fees or strings attached. Just come on down to SiouxperCon.


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[0:50] So I guess I’m just going to leave in a little bit here just get it going to do it a little informal cuz we just got a small group here,
what are people’s kind of expectations for the payoff the thing with podcasting is that it’s,
there’s like a million different formats there’s a different ways to record it what what are some of people’s ideas or what would you like to hear about or do you just want me to start from the top like totally how to do it,
like like a cookie cutter.
Podcast so okay I’ll do that and then I just with the disclosure that there’s a whole bunch of like if you get to a point where I couldn’t do that.
There are other workarounds and other ways to do it there’s like a million ways to do a podcast,
so the first step is you need a topic something to talk about obviously,
it’s ideal have like a dish of some kind something that people haven’t heard before I mean you could totally do something that other people do you can do this for fun that’s totally your thing I mean there’s no,
pressures are obligations there I will caution you if you’re thinking that you’re going to get rich podcasting in any way shape or form,
that is never going to happen unless you are even the people that have done that like maren and,
Joe Rogan were famous before and they use their connections from being famous before the podcast.

[2:14] The Streamlight in in there so,
famous yeah that’s like it’s.

[2:32] You got it got really famous for interviewing Obama a few years ago but I don’t.
Yeah certainly like to think you’re saying and said another reason to do it is if you wanted kind of become more involved with just your community I mean the thing with.
Sioux Empire podcast as we started the first year with just Rob myself and his wife and we pick the topic of.
Local Sioux Empire stuff it quickly it’s no Mall from Larry.
But you know the first season we just did it ourselves never hadn’t guessed but then we started having I guess after we can make bills established ourselves in the listeners.
And then we started having a lot of really cool guest on and that’s kind of cool way to meet new people and talk about it something new that you don’t know very much about him.
If you’re interested in getting more involved with people around you is really.
Yeah whatever Community it’s like if it’s sewing if it’s cosplay if it’s local news something like that it’s a great way to reach out to a community.

[3:53] Whatever you dig and you can have her pain is not a bad place to start when you’re talking about.
I think you’re probably going to admit.
We’re going to but when we first started we did 10 episodes before we ever believes it and it’s good to have that you know sort of.

[4:14] So that you can.
You’re pretty. Depends because there’s been a lot of like conjecture on that rule and stuff over over the years now that kind of like change that a little bit we’re not all podcast will launch in with so many,
you know there’s there’s a whole bunch of arguments about you should have 3 episodes in the can before you laundry stuff too,
or excetera excetera head games trying to be like in the system would become really popular by doing that you’re not.
Just don’t mess with like little petty games like that if you put on and you promoted know you’re out there people will find you and,
a joke with people that I’m still a farmer like I was when I was a kid growing up on a farm you just planting seeds in overtime at gross I mean we probably had like 50 listeners and episode the first year,
like 200 when we added guests in season 2 and then season 3 is when it started to get,
crazy like 800 to 1200 per episode life in that territory.
There were two years there where it felt like we were basically like in a room Talking to Ourselves.

[5:28] Take off Merry Christmas images canopy layer but I guess they’re just try to get some Grill.
Fish learn English through the podcast which is terrifying,
you’re not learning from the doctors not. Too much so the next thing once you got your topic in your idea and your niche,
will get another technical stuff your equipment a lot of people,
the big mistake they make right off the bat is it going in there by like a lot of equipment you do not have to do that there are top 10 iTunes podcasts out there where they recorded with the little earbud headphones that have a microphone and then from there I saw,
that’s all they used to record so you do not have to splurge on equipment that is totally unnecessary it depends a lot.
You’re by yourself.
I don’t like Sarah Werner who’s a big podcaster here in town she’s got out iTunes like top 10 sci-fi podcast of girl in space that’s amazing.

[6:44] I always was like man I have your studio sound,
and then she’s got a bunch of acoustic foam like from Amazon and chicken wire and she made her podcast cone,
top 10 iTunes podcasts like,
and treated like this and that’s how she gets that perfect absolutely no outside noise perfectly balanced sound.

[7:26] I’m imagining she’s operated by now but I will always like a picture in the cone of silence.
Anyway so yeah like I said you do not need to spend a lot of money you can get great sound that way if you doing the podcast it’s more like ours where it’s like conversational it gets a little more complicated but even if you’re like short on money like this little guy right here this Olympus recorder,
the best recorder for $40 at Office Depot you can probably get a lot cheaper online,
it’s got everything I’m saying. So much better,
and I listen to podcast and once I’m done with it it’s it’s listenable it’s not going to be like,
but it’s going to sound good especially for like a starting out podcast getting your feel and deciding if it’s something you want to do for like your first season or whatever more than adequate or like I said like if it’s just by yourself.

[8:28] IPhone earbuds,
if you want to be a crazy person and have like no self-control you be like me and go buy an answer mics and a mixer and all that stuff like right off the bat which it is nice and it gives me a lot more flexibility,
but especially like the first few years when I didn’t know what I was doing with the mixer yet it’s really debatable whether it was like a hindrance or a helpful even have all that equipment cuz I was learning from it which I learn how to use equipment so that’s that’s helpful.

[8:58] Answer that would be confiscated stuff,
don’t spend a lot of money on equipment try it out with something cheaper and then like it’s taking off and someone starts a bit about sponsors or you’re like pushing like a thousand listens an episode or something like that eventually or something like that,
send me a pic then you can start looking at like upgrading to set up and stuff like that or if you’re doing it for fun like I am and you just done with money anyway you can I mean you can Splurge if you want but,
it’s time to make or break your podcast a lot of people will go in thinking they can spend a bunch of money off the bat,
and then that will make her podcasts work no you can have a $400 you know NPR condenser mic and make it terrible podcast I’ve heard them,
they’re out there that you were about the job again like you shouldn’t feel bad if.
Yeah I have to jump Tilex because like I said we started out with one mindset and then quickly changed as you learn how you’re doing.

[10:03] So the next thing once you got some kind of equipment to report it almost all these devices,
that’s what your audio should have come out as some of them were going to have it stereo some of them will have it just one channel in mono,
unless you’re doing like an audio play like radio play with those are fun,
it’s like full of like characters and sound effects and stuff like going on unless you produce it like fully produced like that,
I upload all my stuff in in single-channel mono anymore because it has the amount of data and,
something I’ve learned like the first year I was uploading stereo so I was literally just wasting and paying for twice too much upload that I needed to but you don’t you learn from your first year,
yeah so yeah.
So you get the way file the next thing is how do you clean it up there is a free program that is very easy to use for audio editing.
90% of podcasts use it podcast that are like four people do this for a living.
Bands that use audacity cuz it’s like like anything on the network that like flophouse and my brother my brother my brother and me.

[11:30] Let’s get bunch of them they all use audacity even though they’re guys that make their living off of podcasting that’s all they do and they still use this free software cuz it’s really stupid easy to edit
Dragon drop stuff Ben is super straightforward you want to fade you just go at it.
What are the things that you’ve done is outsourced.

[11:57] I had her intro Outdoors too so that’s kind of cheap way to kind of put some stuff if you’re not give the musically or whatever you want to,
dad as far as like there is a ton of royalty.

[12:24] There’s a ton of royalty free music out there so as far as like your intro and stuff like that I would rely on that.
Royalty free for the first two seasons like that and that in the third contacted a composer that I met on fiber fiber is right by the way if you just want a voiceover intro person that isn’t you welcome to the show until podcast.

[12:47] It’s different so it sounds more professional and stuff you can go on fiber and pay them like 5 $10 and they’ll send you that audio clip and you give them a script.
It’s stupid easy to Outsource stuff that way it’s really feel like people with British accents.

[13:05] When will I arrive at British British woman record our intro where she said all of our names like with Robert smeding Natasha Estes for the longest time I left it there but she was like set.

[13:29] He messes up names and for the first year it was just me and the podcast other than 5 and you certainly didn’t mess up hers but you know that my mood.
I believe it cuz I do that but yeah okay I’ll believe that anyway my apologies back on a podcasting and how to,
the next thing you could do so you’ve got that WAV file you’ve got I know what you want like I said you can have intros reported you can use you know royalty free music I recommend that.
Don’t push the the car anything copyrighted be really careful with fair use a lot of people will push.
There used to be like all that’s fair you have some in the elf like pulling it Tire 80 ACDC song as their theme in the podcast is like that.
Podcast to the wild west so it’s not like YouTube you will not get flag right away.
Eventually it can really come back to bite you like severely with the legal ramifications so I would strongly recommend you not do that unless you got Express.
Information it’s up and then if you’re like me and you upload your podcast to YouTube as well cuz that’s another outlet for Distributing.
YouTube will flag you like right away cuz they’ve got the algorithms to detect right away you’re using a song that you don’t.
Glad you for using music that you own and have explicit written permission to use.
And I’m still glad you would be like we don’t believe you even though your Britain documents that say I own this.

[14:56] Podcast of paranormal investigation with copper Anwar band called mouth full of BS recorded this really cool Erie soundtrack that’s the intro to it,
every episode I have to file a dispute with YouTube cuz every episode,
glad the intro as a copyright violation and then I have to email the form that says no I got written permission to use a song and then like okay.

[15:22] So just part of my routine just email that outfit every episode that.

[15:27] So stay away from copyrighted music as much as he can use the original stuff.
So you got this way file we put music in it before the intro wanted you recorded what you were your content the next thing is to format a little bit,
one of the best kept secrets other than audacity that’s free for for formatting and editing is a little program called level later.
If you Google level later you’ll find it it’s really Define to run from a company called the conversations Network and it is.
You are liquid gold it is amazing you literally drag your wave file onto the the little window that pops up and it spits out a WAV file that is like totally balanced it will lower your high and raise your Lowe’s,
superb like better than,
I have a service I use for other different like body of finishing things that’s like a paid professional service it is not as good in a lot of cases of levelator.

[16:32] I don’t like people in the industry rant and Rave about that that program and it’s totally free,
so at the best kept secret you hear a lot of people when they’re learning a podcast they’re starting out there audio levels were like really really low or really are really really high but usually really low because they’re scared and shy on the first time the first 15 minutes,
let you know the rule that everyone is scared of podcasting the first 15 minutes and then they get natural sounding.

[16:58] Yeah yeah so level later that’s one of the best piece of advice I can give you cuz I know a lot of podcast that could really use that that don’t know about it.
It’s really different than the previous year.

[17:18] Yep it’s it’s a great tool and it’s free so I highly recommend that so then the next thing you got to figure out how to host your your podcast cuz you got that file I need to distribute it to people.
Here’s where it gets a little technical because there’s like a hundred different ways to distribute it,
I’ve really common one with a lot of people I Know It SoundCloud that is absolutely a good valid resource I,
I would recommend it I know there’s some people who are like very sad again SoundCloud because the company has had some like instability with leadership and stuff like that,
but it’s a great Value Plus like $120 a year and then unlimited audio for the entire year like you can upload a hundred episodes and.
And SoundCloud.

[18:03] Are they give you the pretty front end in the player that you can embed in your website stuff like that pretty straightforward and get and now they used to not do this now they offer an RSS feed so that you could submit it to iTunes through SoundCloud so they are a full fully functional,
posting service,
another one that I use is called libsyn that’s the professional industry Standard 1 a lot of your like iTunes top 10 podcasts are posted by lips and they are the gold standard.
The thing with them is that,
they’re by media host so they host your file and they give you a little player but you might want a prettier like WordPress website that actually put the player on and display to people because otherwise the lips and websites kind of ugly but it’s.
But it’s a good host and the brakes are pretty reasonable but that one will charge based on the volume or the amount of files.
That’s why I was talking about paying double cuz I turn the stereo files instead of mono files so it’s like I’m using up twice as much memory as I need to every month.

[19:09] But yeah I can’t say enough good things about Lipson but I know people who you SoundCloud are super happy with that I know a few people who use a service I can recommend cuz I’ve never used it but podbean is very popular.
Blueberry is very popular I actually use their there plug-in on my WordPress site because if you’re going to do host multiple podcasts like I do want to cite what you can do is you can host the media file on Lipson,
and then use Burberry to create like a channel for like 6 so I can have six different podcasts from one website is burberry can just spit out,
here’s the website here’s a podcast. Here’s a separate podcast feed is another podcast feed so all of my podcast website,
fix it just it’s so easy to manage to that plug in so,
that’s a great product but I still like lips in as the host like I said they are the gold standard and they have really up their game on the analytics like giving you about who’s listening to where and for how long and things like that.
Yeah I know how to hard test I guess welcome.

[20:15] So beyond that didn’t you get into but that’s how it looks and so if you use Ice and Fire.

[20:27] I’m sorry what was that very last part.
Yes cuz cuz here’s the deal I didn’t mention I touch your podcast basically they are an aggregator and a search engine you give them the RSS feed,
which is what your podcast feed as it’s just a syndicated data feed and iTunes just basically a search engine for podcasts.
So you want to submit your podcast there because in the last report that lips and did they said that,
something like 70% of all podcast listeners are still listening through iTunes,
I mean it’s not even close how many how much Apple dominates that market so you have to be on iTunes there’s just no getting around that.
You’re going to be.

[21:20] Yeah it while we’re on the topic of submitting your podcast if you’re going to use explicit language totally fine as long as you’re not doing anything like bigoted or like race really don’t like.
Did you know really icky stuff as long as you’re staying out of that just your basic swearing,
as long as you put the explicit disclaimer on your podcast feed iTunes does not care one bit in fact,
I do it on podcasts where we don’t swear my flight Macabre Noir just doesn’t insurance policy so that they can never say all you should have said that on a non-explicit podcast,
but yeah,
but if you swear on a podcast that does not have the explicit carrier they can get really nasty about throwing you off by Toots and like I said if they close the door on you what iTunes that’s 70% of the worlds podcast listeners cut off.
So it’s very important to keep them happy.

[22:20] I don’t think I can.
Put on all of theirs I think this American life if I recall they put the explicit on specific episodes which some,
some Services allow you to do that and some don’t I don’t know if the Burberry plug-in I use lets me do that so just as a caution I put it on the channel just so I’m covered,
I just don’t want any any miscommunication where someone Flags me for having swearing when I’m not supposed to.
Cuz yeah they’ll do that and then what time does American life does it’s because they’re also going to broadcast on public radio is there put a censored version on their website and on the radio but the explicit one is the one that’s in your main feed.

[23:13] So yeah you and Stitcher is another great resource I mean not nearly as big as iTunes but basically you just take your RSS feed that you have from your host,
you just put that lead in you know you do face the Google submit a podcast to Stitcher submit a podcast to iTunes,
you’re immediately to find their connect portal and if you could set up an email account with some face if you don’t like.
Basic basic information like a horn basically you’ll be all set because what they’ll do it used to be a lot more like work on your part
but nowadays almost all of them are built so you just feed them the RSS feed they’re going to look at your house and pull that information from the beat so you don’t even have to put in your show description or your artwork half the time because
child support from a seed.

[24:00] So where were you hosted at either Lipson or SoundCloud it’ll just take that information you only thinner at once you just distribute the RSS.
If you heard of.
Cuz once it’s up and running it’s stupid easy to just upload another episode upload another episode there’s like no maintenance on it it’s just that initial getting started and submitting it everywhere.

[24:26] It’s very rare to have a podcast like turned out I’ve never had one in Sac Apple usually approve something I submit to them in like 12 hours I can have a podcast up and running,
but they say it can be up to like 2 or 3 days cuz it is a literally an internet Camaro sitting there that like manually ghosts,
you know it’s like the lowest totem job on the pole I guess is,
State the one internet approves podcast but they do have a human look at it and go this is humans.

[25:00] Yeah they don’t do a lot out to iTunes with them.
It’s better than now YouTube YouTube YouTube it’s like the cautionary tale of going too far the other way for you to restrictive and iTunes is very much the wild west get Facebook if you upload and that’s the thing is just because it’s audio a lot.
People doing stuff for their logo or like a screensaver anything with their logo but again fiber is your friend you can hire someone or Fiber to make the animated logo that just loops,
and don’t put their audio on,
I like Facebook or even streaming on Facebook live there’s so many resources and so many different like channels for delivery but if you’re doing a true audio podcast,
I can’t stress enough that iTunes is this the way cuz you know Lipson is the biggest game in town and they put out there anywhere Port every year and this year they said like 70% of listeners are still on iTunes.

[25:59] I expect that to shift a little bit now that Google is finally taking podcast seriously and there is no a dedicated Google podcast app there wasn’t before so you had,
Stitcher and pot holders like a million podcast catchers out there but the nice thing is that almost all them dish steal information from iTunes,
and skim it so once you submit the iTunes you’re on like a dozen different applications you don’t even know about.
Screaming because there cuz they want you know people to listen on their service so they’re going to pull them so you really have to submit to the big boys submit to Google submit to iTunes,
and Spotify is growing rapidly so I would definitely submit to Spotify their submission process is a little more pain in the butt is the technical term,
but yeah it’s it’s worth it cuz they are there rapidly growing there.
They are the next biggest on the radar last year and now this year they’re like the next even though a papalas 70% the next fastest and the fastest-growing is Spotify.

[27:10] So it’s a good place to be.
Yeah and from there you just need to promote your your podcast there’s a lot of different ways to do that depending on what kind of podcast is.
Like Seth was saying earlier it really helped us when we start doing interviews with people and feel like communicating more with the community,
guests are a big big boom unless you unless you’re going to do like an ass a kind of thing where you’re going to like research and plan it out in like read this set essay if your discussion and you.

[27:42] Your glasses are big part of succeeding going to let him finish.
It’s really scared to hear Dan Bob it’s Juniors voice like that is like a voice God right now.

[28:11] But that much power is terrifying.

[28:17] He’s a friend and he’s from here on homeboy cuz he’s pick her up and look like seeing for the state ID.
There’s like almost no one out there so I’m surprised you’re not related really.

[28:29] Anyway so we’re talking about Distributing podcasts and promoting is is a key thing.
Around here Facebook is a twat bigger than Facebook is paying your trying to put that depends on your,
it depends on your Niche because we are targeting people in the Sioux Empire that is our Niche so 70 to 80% of users in this area are.
Do like all their do everything on Facebook so that’s where we’re at like heavily we are very heavily invested in Facebook,
the point that I don’t like it cuz it’s a bit of a monoculture so it’s like a Facebook changes one thing we have to immediately react that’s another marketing there where you don’t want to like it too dependent on one channel for promoting your stuff.
Periscope is really growing and doing well you know YouTube obviously.

[29:26] Social media is a big retard about promoting now sorry.

[29:32] Which one am I promoting another good channel is emails I do like to get an email list I’m not huge on collecting emails but,
it is effective for like the set people that you eat,
rely on email and it’s controlled by Facebook or Twitter and Facebook puts out an algorithm change tomorrow that makes it really hard to find my podcast.

[29:56] My email is people are completely unaffected by that that’s all me I own that I own those means of communication that way.
Generator software or do you.
Emailing and have the list all enjoy your own use MailChimp and so what you can do there as you can have like up to 2,000 email addresses which is like way bigger than my list is for free,
and you got chicken connected to an RSS feed so what mine does is if a new episode of my podcast comes out.
MailChimp reads the RSS feed puts out the set you know the image from my podcast app,
title of my podcast episode and Link and emails that out to the list whenever a new episode comes out at the set time that I determine NFL free,
so that’s a really great Channel once you start collecting some emails and then they make an embedded form you can put on your website to collect more emails you like to sign up for our mailing list for your newsletter and,
especially this is the only way you’re going to use it is to tell people there’s a new episode of podcast.
Tell people that tell him you’re not going to sell it or anything like that this is just hey I want to hear there’s a new episode.

[31:06] People are usually a lot more receptive when they know it just like I’m just one person this is just my podcast this is not a multi-level marketing thing going on with your email.

[31:24] Dumb Polo South Park Cartman’s dad nobody wants that that’s no David cuz I’m sorry he doesn’t even.

[31:34] Podcast.
And even if it’s a humorous podcast,
podcast that you can go in but I mean.
Hi baby I certainly don’t want to get it as serious as we do I mean I don’t mind getting in serious as we do but.

[32:06] Later or another, the end of it.

[32:13] Yeah that’s that’s my baby.
Yes Shameless plug for the panel tomorrow night we’re working at the episodes of my humor and local news when the Sioux Empire podcast,
and then my paranormal investigation 1 Macabre Noir where I have magician Travis 9 and then area shows of medium is going to be there and I think she said she seriously said that so if that could be.
We’ll see how hot it we can get this convention center.

[32:48] Oh I think she she’s got like peridex and crystals and yeah it is it’s going to be not so I’m sure but.
That’s at 8 p.m. tomorrow maybe.
No it’ll be wearing when the closer ones up here by then hopefully the jock smell of waste out of that one.
So yeah that’s podcasting in a nutshell I know that was super vague overview but like I said that the more I learn about podcasting the more I learn the.
There’s like a million paths to success or what you want out of podcasting and there’s a million different ways to do it it’s just based on your own resourcefulness,
what kind of questions do you guys have about how to how to go forward out of out of wherever you’re at in the process if you’re still like,
kicking around an idea or if you’d like to rolling with something go ahead.
Everything about how to approach how can I be an extra going through with it if I’m saying I’ve always.

[33:59] I get Social Anxiety really bad if I did not want to talk to strangers let alone with microphones all weird and like I’ve got way more comfortable with it now but yeah when we starting off at the super super awkward.

[34:15] Robert Stacy cell.
It depends it depends on what kind of people you’re looking for so like with local news here in the Sioux Empire what I do is I will look for.
You know who who is making news and we started out really small so it was just like a local comic book artist Dylan jakobsen got featured in The Argus Leader because his Kickstarter raised like 25.
What was the 5000 no $6,000 in one week or something like that that’s what made like the front page of the Argus Leader of what’s his story so then you use social media to stop them and track them down like a dog.
Facebook is the greatest intelligence resource ever.
Yeah Facebook Messenger to talk to somebody in your local group or you can even do it by web and you know I said something that.
Download daily a lot of people in this area earlier shopping.

[35:34] Connections by a ditch Facebook groups where we can find people who are in that same thing if you’re talking about an industry podcast LinkedIn is a great resource of group if it’s like a business podcast.
You know just go where they are and then I guess it’s just like dating you just got to ask are getting in getting your desk.

[36:01] They’re in their hand in hand because the the guest helps promote usually don’t go back on their show or anything like they’re doing or those,
like what’s a podcast that was just a big part word-of-mouth the people like fuck I was on this podcast last weekend because my friend was a guest on it you know,
about to go or something like that and then as you kind of like climb the totem you get bigger and bigger guests,
and those cats have a bigger umbrella and I mean you see how it works at snowballs basically to the point that you get like the art director of the Washington Pavilion in our you get like the mayor or somebody like that.
You know you’re whatever your goal yes exactly let’s see any other question.

[36:51] Okay so talking about pot in fridge and stuff how do you how do you go about getting coffee and then keep doing that how do you keep in the.

[37:01] Nai an hour late all you can control this surprise robbed.

[37:08] Like I’m there for the ride so I mean you really have to be dedicated if it was up to me is this wouldn’t we would have not.
God has one season just because I robbed as a super dedication and.
You know he asked me how I do and I tell them that mental mental issues really help.
Mental illness is a key to keeping all these podcast going at once.

[37:42] You’re not going to blow up in the first year necessarily so he got a thank-you turns of years with podcast in your.
Growing your audience at the only podcast I ever had like blow up right off the bat was actually Urban Indians podcast that I produced The Toasted by Gabriel Knight shield that one exploded right off the bat,
hey sweets won the Native American music award like the Native American version of the Grammys where they are award ceremony in New York and stuff,
he’s wanted like 4 times and so he has like a national following except it’s so that got us on the USA Today and NPR and stuff like that so like the first.
Of that podcast we like 6,000 downloads and that’s just that that’s that power of that let me talk in earlier about like Rogan and people like that you’re already famous podcast.
Easier but obviously everybody doesn’t have that kind of resource but if you’re looking for like a co-host or something like that if you know someone,
that’s the thing that these are like a very obscure to someone who died in the Native American community so you wouldn’t on the surface think that would be a massive draw if you know somebody that’s like big in your industry a big influencer,
to or like to in your topic for you know somebody just like a comedian,
like has I’m following that can help as far as like your guess depending once again on your topic keeping it open-ended year.

[39:09] It like I said if they’re out of state or whatever the people that you want to contact her that you don’t post and I refer to.
Seth siouxpercon.
Leaving job me off track.

[39:42] So back to your actual question about content creation.
It depends a lot on your topic if you find your burning out on it you might want to take like a different direction and retool a little bit or like fine like a different knit with a niche in automobile.
Full disclosure I produce a podcast for Pete year Pappy for your podcast it’s a political podcast.
I would say like say you’re getting this is an example for the group.
Like if you’re getting frustrated with one kind of thing like the Kavanagh by testimony with Springport stuff like that you can switch gears there’s a lot of other stuff going on in politics that you could cover the it’s not being covered.
I mean are you talking like looking for like topics are you talking about just like the creation of something from a topic like research or starting out for you about.

[40:45] Getting into the consecration Kevin just keep going the Caillou.
How do you keep the fire alive okay that that is that is a quite a different question than I thought what you were asking.
That’s a good one.
You just got to be determined you can’t be motivated by money you’ve got to love this hobby it’s and that’s what it is and it’s an art form I believe now after having done it as long as I have.
Yeah cuz it seems like bikers and if it’s a conversational type of hot gases in your thing maybe try writing one out if maybe it is you like writing and have it.
Scripted podcast because that’s something completely different so if you’re kinda.

[41:27] Laundry on the conversations and kiddo. Really loving that maybe have something written out a time and you might enjoy that process.
So you can try new things like probably saying there’s a million different ways.

[41:42] It’s all about really you know you got to want to do it Whatever It Is.

[41:51] I’m going back to determination it’s it’s just like.

[41:59] It just baffles me like people that are like Music Makers that like make music that are bands like Gabriel lifeshield or the local stand-up comedians that I have on dress code like sack dress,
same deal you just got to have you got it love what you’re doing and enjoy it,
intrinsic enjoyment from it cuz you’re not going to right away get any kind of monetary from it but it is fun I mean I find a credibly rewarding and it’s one of those like that’s what separates if it was too.
It would get way too easy and way too oversaturated if it was so easy that just absolutely everyone can do it the fact that there is a little bit of a difficulty threshold in it and it does.
I would say difficulty but there’s work there’s Sweat Equity that you must put into it to get established,
in a way that’s a good thing because a little bit instead of like somebody who just goes for thought and we’re planning,
and execute and stand out from.
You know you wouldn’t you wouldn’t want it to be that anybody can just wondering. Street recorded walk away it’s kind of like you even get YouTube That’s What You Get YouTube like years ago.
Pretty much yeah so.

[43:15] Nope that would that I was apologizing that there’s any other questions though.
I guess I have a a question that down.
They have follow-up questions depending on the answer how’d you guys record locally all the time like within the same room or what not.

[43:38] Record some stuff when I try to because it is a major pet peeve of mine for podcast that record one person on Skype.
But that is super common format and it’s incredibly restrictive to me as an artist probably that I that I have that hang up because the ability to talk to people all over across the country is a really powerful tool if done right,
and it could have just bronze your guests beer so I’m I’m lucky that I don’t have to do that because my focus is local so I tried to get the local person in my studio,
and I think there’s better sound quality there and just a better repore cuz then you got body language working and stuff like that,
but I would not let my hang up on that prevent you from researching it doing it right and and talking to guess there are like podcast on fire I can’t remember the guy that produces that one but it’s an entrepreneurship podcast,
and he produces like an hour podcast a day and I think he’s making something like $7,000 a week or something like that just blew up podcasting,
and he did.

[44:46] You did a lot of that with anything but having it set up already like just just you know there he’s got a spare room where he.
It’ll be this setup and he’s been constantly improving it every year so.
Nice. If you do want to be served like a field of work out in field.
Podcast I don’t know if they specialized equipment for it but like Robert name with Richard recording the field use this guy.
TWRP use a slightly upgraded one that’s like $100 instead of the $60 one like this and then used level later on it and you,
I probably golden you can use a little bit of sound filtering the stuff in audacity for like noise cancellation from Hamed’s like that is not the greatest,
all that requires a little bit more about tech like Technical and I can do it sometimes but there are some shows where I can’t there’s only so much you can do on that front,
but some people have recorded really great episode with her interviewing someone like in a restaurant or coffee shop if you got the right recorder once you tested it and like gone out and done that,
it’s actually adds like an Ambiance of the background noise of like you know those like dishes cleaning and stuff like that and like,
you care for once in awhile stuff like that it’s very very homie inorganic and it makes you feel like you’re sitting there at the table with them that’s a pretty cool setup.

[46:16] Yeah maybe like a little further gas and then instead of the Ambiance Mike that is absolutely possible.
But not totally necessary that they did that but I totally totally possible thing I have learned,
and podcasting is that unless you are in a super controlled Studio environment less is more if I were to redo my studio today like.
I had like no credit card debts actually do it,
I would not use condenser mics like I use right now and now everyone every podcast tutorial you’re going to see how the internet says use condenser mics cuz it’s better quality,
well it is if you are an absolutely controlled Studio environment with acoustic foam everywhere and like,
what are two people in the studio super controlled environment otherwise they’re too sensitive I would just make sure that your guest talk louder,
I talked to better mic placement and use regular mic instead of condenser mics,
because I I think we get more background then we need to from our condenser mics which I can compensate that as I’m getting better with like learning my mixer and stuff like that,
but it wasn’t necessary to do that and if I rewired it or read it it I’d probably move away from condenser microphones.

[47:36] He said I’m the 2099 launching an audio drama podcast that’s going to be in like the vein of The Twilight Zone it’s going to like cat sound effects characters and stuff like that,
so I’m glad I have them for that but for like me and Seth and I guess you know like interviewing there’s no reason to use condenser mics,
or that I mean you can’t you have to look at I do but you can save money and save audio adjusting time and you know,
by not doing that that’s that’s what I was getting at the beginning of thing it’s like there’s a million ways to do this so it’s like you can do with phantom power,
you know little earbuds you can do this guy sitting on the table right here all of them work you can you can you can make work if you want.
It’s all up to your personal preference and if you record more you’ll develop personal preferences for I like the way that sounds are you I don’t like the way this sounds or we should have done it in that room or something like that and it just learn from experience. I think.

[48:48] Any other questions mention earlier that like difference.
Platforms like iTunes and Spotify they can take up a lot of time to fill up your uploads to complete does that make it hard for scheduling like.
Do like a weekly podcast.

[49:11] And I didn’t I don’t believe I said that on like a per episode basis for the approval process when they approve you the very first time.
Time your actual uploads now I will speak from my experience I’ve had incredibly good luck with them always appearing the instant I put them on my feed.
Now sure when or who I mentioned earlier than a lot of podcasting she can complain to me that she said podcast that are delayed by like 2 days,
from showing up that is not been my experience at all personally.
For me they always shown up within 24 hours of be posting them so like a very consistently Urban in his podcast is always released every other Wednesday morning at 8 a.m.
Especially with that regular schedule and I schedule it in like lips in and in SoundCloud stuff like that cuz you can schedule when the post like go live.
It’s been very consistent I haven’t had any trouble with it like not showing up on time.
Especially when you got a regular schedule and you’re not like Barney and would like three episode the day or something like that yeah I should be very consistent I think.
Like I said I’m not everyone’s experience but it’s been mine for 4 years so other questions.

[50:33] Going once going twice so what do you do for environmental control.

[50:42] You and your wife you live in private I needed for normal.

[50:46] That was awesome thank you. Me too man.
Yeah Harry show out here she doesn’t podcast called chaos reigns with her husband that’s all about like filmmaking and good podcast and.
House for cats and on a regular basis to get interrupted by cat.
And it’s hilarious will be like how we have to cut away and then you’ll hear like a cut and they’ll be okay we’re back or cats they really wanted in this room because this is the room that their litter boxes this where we record make a story.
This is the story of Marc Maron interviewed Barack Obama with Obama leaning up against maren’s like 2002 Volkswagen Beetle in his garage has his studios in his garage.
So it’s like a picture of Barack Obama leaning against his old car sitting a garage like it’s wonky but.

[51:50] You put composer and the right contact everyone understands that podcasting is something different it’s organic it’s very ground level and so unless you’re doing like an American life for like an essay one that’s like silence,
there’s a lot of forgiveness there I think some people won’t forgive us some people get really picky about having anything like that to podcast but.
I think part of that is the spice of life that actually makes podcast worth living to instead of like a corporate produced like mass-produced thing I need a dedicated space for it you know you can have really lightweight.

[52:26] You want to go longer than an hour you certainly can,
we’re kind of in Q&A and I think I’m about to I don’t know who that guy is that was awesome thank you.
What’s the other thing I was going to say too if anybody does have any other questions I wish I’d said it for.
People in the back left here but I have an open door policy so anytime you want to come over you live in Sioux Falls and you want to Shadow a podcast and see like,
I all the time except most of them sitting next to me and I’ll be like okay this is my mixer this is what I do this is why I do it your experience baby differ,
so you can call you can call me or text me or email me and we can set that up and I you can Shadow an episode of my podcast if I got room for you the studio,
my email address is our it’s Rob at the Sioux Empire. Com so it’s Rob at symbol.
The and then sue cuz I can’t spell Sioux Empire apparently.
How to spell perfect time.

[53:51] And that’s hot rods number but if you email and get so give you his number you can text me.
Yeah we’re all about podcasting as a hold a humidifier so it’s you know Rob Rob loves to go.

[54:14] And I love teaching and I love the do you know a rising tide raises All Ships especially with podcasting,
just like half the battle especially in this market is education like what is a pot.

[54:32] Wake me up at 8:10.
Everyone likes someone to play list of podcast is like their fingerprint I swear I asked every flight person I have on like guest or like people I’m just meeting here at the convention floors of Life podcast do you listen to,
I swear every time someone will have at least one podcast in their list I’ve never heard of hundreds of people that question,
and I swear I never get to say the exact same as there’s common ones like a lot of people like Hardcore History A lot of people like Marc Maron or Joe Rogan,
but they’ll also have this obscure haunted south or Southern Gothic podcast that I’ve never heard of listen to it it’s fantastic.
Or war or something like that Laura is amazing I love for.
Oh yeah they can Amazon TV show For Crying Out Loud Aaron Mahnke that guy’s got to be making bank by now.

[55:34] Yeah that is not the case the median podcast according to the CEO of Lipson gets 45 downloads.
That’s that’s the the medium Armenian and considering you’ve got podcasts to get two million downloads and then once I get none think about how that averages out so it’s just like.
So if you’re frustrated when your first your first few seasons of stuff you get like 40 and 50 lessons you were doing you’re doing well you’re on track if you’re getting that many cuz that’s.

[56:09] And there’s a lot out there it’s so like I said yourself that actually like makes you stand out a little bit helps.
But you can say like you can’t do.

[56:24] Oh there’s already ghosts podcast yeah but is there a ghost of the Missouri podcast is there a you know like haunted podcast that’s hosted by,
you know someone who doesn’t believe in ghosts but has a friend that does he know you can add Dynamics to invest with it look at how big police procedurals are in TV,
like every kind of show is a police procedural but there’s like a billion different flavors of it with different character Dynamics to podcasts.
You can it’s like there’s lots of mystery investigation paranormal podcasts but my hook is that I’ve got a medium,
a magician was a skeptic and nose like tricks light hand and is into the hole like Houdini’s Legacy you’ve like exposing.

[57:10] Mediums and psychics and stuff like that that was a big thing at the end towards the end of his life but he dedicated himself to,
and then he was like an amateur amateur historian slightly better at Googling things than most people so that’s my mic isn’t that that that helps.
So yeah there’s no other questions I think that’s it you won’t have to the business card from Seth and thank you by the way Bar and Grill.
Did you check that box or do you even know okay.
To make sure you put the Rob on there I think I have my cards with a plan that well,
up to date business cards.

[58:08] Thank you and we hope to see you guys tomorrow night 8 p.m.

[58:14] 7 7 p.m. Sioux Empire podcast APM Opera War.

[58:21] 70 x 2,
I love you so much,
I think she’s bringing some crystals and it might be a Ouija board.
But I’m just like the convention center,
I’m like thank you wanted to be on your phone.

[59:12] The convention center that’s a different story… Thanks Jenny I’m going to sleep great tonight

31 Days of Halloween: The Van Meter Visitor

A bizarre legend and unsolved mystery which has haunted a small Iowa town for more than 100 years is the subject of a new book called The Van Meter Visitor.

For several nights in 1903, the small town of Van Meter, Iowa was terrorized by a giant bat-like creature that emerged from an old abandoned mine. 

The identity of this mysterious monster has never been discovered, but over 100 years later a new book is retelling the amazing tale and hoping to shed some light on what happened all those years ago.

The legend dates back to the fall of 1903 when several of Van Meter’s most well-respected citizens reported a half human, half animal with enormous, smooth bat wings flying about. 

The creature is described as moving at speeds the townsfolk had never witnessed before, plus it let off a powerful stench and shot a blinding light from its horned head.

Each time the townsfolk encountered the creature they fired their guns at it, but this appeared to have no impact on the creature.

On the first night, it was first spotted flying across the building tops. The next evening it was spotted by both the town doctor and bank cashier Peter Dunn who took a plaster cast of its ‘great three-toed tracks.’

On the third night, a man spotted it perched atop a telephone pole. Another resident who saw it, described the monster as hopping like a kangaroo, while the local high school teacher likened it to a devil.

Scared and angered by what they had witnessed, the townsfolk followed the creature to an abandoned coal mine near an old brickyard where they heard a noise from the mine.

‘Presently the noise opened up again, as though Satan and a regiment of imps were coming forth for battle,’ reads an article in the Des Moines Daily News from Oct. 3, 1903.

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Van Meter Visitor

Van Meter Visitor